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Quote: craigizzard "Peacock has more left in the tank, and has been better in the last half of the season, than Morley, fwiw. It's by the by because they're both still two of our best four props.

The problem is that if they're both on the field at the same time they replicate each other, faults included. It's pretty simple that they should spell each other playing approx. 40 minutes each and keeping fresh and energetic. Then have Graham playing for 55-60 minutes with Carvell spelling him. It beggars belief that Carvell is not on the bench in front of Wilkin. JJB probably isn't international class either, but at least he runs and hits hard.'"


Agree with this 100%, the last 2 months of the season showed that Peacock still has it. The rest of the thread goes from somewhere between tosh and common sense

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Quote: Wire_91 "your kidding right?
Apparantly, having an impact hooker works in the game of rugby league. Especially if the afore-mentioned impact hooker is as good as Roby. Sinfield is out-and-out quality and has played starting hooker many times before in his career, both at club and international level. When your playing the best side in the world, you need strength from 1-17.

As for your analogy of Slater being left on the bench.... your being a little silly. Impact full-backs don't tend to exist. Fail.

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Quote: PADDERS "Is this guy living in the past !'"


How far into the past would you like to go.
How about the last game of the Superleague season, at Old Trafford, just a few weeks ago.

Peacock's stats
Tackles... 32
Missed Tackles... 1
Carries... 27
Metres...198
Errors... 1
Penalties... 1

Or compare the season's stats for Peacock and CarvellPeacock

Carries per game...17.7
Metres per game...115.6
Tackles per game...29.2
Carvell
Carries per game...12.1
Metres per game...91.46
Tackles per game...23.2

Better stats despite the fact that JP took some time getting back up to speed after a long and serious injury lay-off.
I know stats aren't the 'be all and end all' and I rate Carvell as a great player, but don't let your club bias blind you from the obvious fact that Peacock is still one of the most consistent English forwards in the world.

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Quote: wilkiebri "Mr Mac seems to relish playing players out of position, we are never going to compete with the Aussies if we we don' play players in there specialist roles. Also why are we not bringing the young English players through, most can't even get in the squad, and to add insult to injury he ends up playing a reject Kiwi stand off at scrum half and a loose forward at stand off, wheres is Myler who had a great game against the French in the warm up game, and how about the young half back paring from Saints. I have no problem with the English players who play in the ARL, that can add some insight to how the Aussies play. This constant playing players out of position though makes for a disjointed side and is never going to get us any where. The game against the Welsh gave a very flattering score and at times the welsh pack gave us a good game, I'm afraid the Aussies and Kiwis will give use a lesson in Rugby League and show us playing players in the right positions is the way to go.'"


Lomax is injured. Tomkins is 22, Hall 23, Reed 23, Yeaman 28, and Briscoe 22(?)

Plus Widdop, BJB, Cudjoe and Carl Ablett. In fact there's only 5 players over 30 in the squad. Plus when you add the likes of Burgess, and Lomax out injured the squad has a fairly young look to it.

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Exactly.
The thing people forget about blokes like Briscoe and Hall is they're still very young, they've just been around a while. You hear some harping on about Riley one day being a great player whereas these guys are younger and already far superior.

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