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| Quote: jdrocket "This is stupid. Sam tomkins is very one dimensional. In fact that is an understatement.
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What a dimension though, eh? 
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Things I learned on 11/08/12
Gareth Hock can't pass
Gareth Hock can't run
Gareth Hock can't fight
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| Quote: P-J "What a dimension though, eh? ![]()
It is almost (and I do know it is loose) like saying micky higham is the best hooker; no, the best player in rugby because he used to be able to get a good scoot from dummy half.
To a strongish defence, sam is a wet dream. Selfish, clumsy, light and limited rugby brain.
This will be highlighted well ( like last year) in the 4 nations. I, from a rugby pov, hope he does become a great fullback but apart from his ability to slide through awful defensive mistakes he is poor.
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|  Some of the comments on here are embarassing...
I'm pretty sure not many Warrington fans share the same view of Ron or jdrocket because it just goes to show what lack of RL knowledge they have. I dont understand how they can't see what a special type of player England have in Sam Tomkins. For years we have been able to match Australia and New Zealand in the forwards but have lacked quality in the backs. A player like Sam comes along and it's "if we dont beat Australia and New Zealand he's rubbish." I have no doubt behind a good pack going into the 4 Nations we will see just what a good player he is.
We havent been able to match Australia and New Zealand for years so why if we don't this year would it be all Sam's fault. I'm more worried about McNamara being in charge than anything else.
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| Quote: Dyson "Tell you what gets on my tits, coming on this board to find mind numbing topics
On the same things week after week. Most are based on Wigan and Phil Clarke.
I remember a time when this was a great forum, them days are long gone!'"
I remember the days when Sky covered all teams and not just one team and one so called god like player 
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'Sam' wa sensational last night.
I was really surprised watching the game, all the Wigan fans on here keep telling me we're daft as a brush for racking up big scores on plop sides, the Wigan wayaka the 'correct way' is to just do enough, conserve the energy, then a week before the final they're running tries from everywhere.
How odd.
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: JWP "'Sam' wa sensational last night.
I was really surprised watching the game, all the Wigan fans on here keep telling me we're daft as a brush for racking up big scores on plop sides, the Wigan wayaka the 'correct way' is to just do enough, conserve the energy, then a week before the final they're running tries from everywhere.
How odd.'" Why do you think the scoreline was so close in the first half?
That would have been the plan but at half time he would have said dont risk it go out and do your stuff |
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| Quote: Bill C "I remember the days when Sky covered all teams and not just one team and one so called god like player ![]()
I hope that's not a genuine case for an argument!
Wigan are a class team with an exceptional young player, they are going to get air time.
Barcelona and Messi, United and Ronaldo, they all attract viewers in their time.
Just don't know if this is a board for true Wire fans, or a board for Wigan haters. I'm a Wire through and through but I appluad great rugby and great rugby players and at the moment their is a lot of that over at Wigan.
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "
Sorry, but I am afraid it is you and the masses that lack the knowledge, you listen to what sky say to much. Sam is a special player really? Surely a special player would perform against the best players in the world, looking good in broken play in SL doesn' t mean much... its the eqivalent of a player looking great in the SPL or the Championship and claiming they're one of the best football players in the world, doesn't make much sense does it if they aren't performing against the best.
When he rips up the NRL, or International defences then I will concede he is special, otherwise his just a very good SL player... you could bring over at least 20 of the backs on the NRL and they would rip open SL defences for fun.
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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
[b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg |
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| Quote: king warrior "Why do you think the scoreline was so close in the first half?
That would have been the plan but at half time he would have said dont risk it go out and do your stuff'"
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He's only had one go at international rugby. He is very, very good. To say he's in the top 30 in Super League is stupid. He's in the top 5 without doubt. Why don't you just admit it? I hope Wigan lose the rest of their matches this season, but I still recognise they have a great set of players. Tomkins would walk into our team when Hodgson retires.
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| Quote: The All New Chester Wire "He's only had one go at international rugby. He is very, very good. To say he's in the top 30 in Super League is stupid. He's in the top 5 without doubt. Why don't you just admit it? I hope Wigan lose the rest of their matches this season, but I still recognise they have a great set of players. Tomkins would walk into our team when Hodgson retires.'"
I said he was a very good SL player, I agree he would walk into our team when Hodgson retires, but I don't agree he is one of the best RL players in the world.... don't buy into the sky hype, its like when they try to make out Rooney is as good as Messi or Ronaldo. |
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| Quote: Ron "Sorry, but I am afraid it is you and the masses that lack the knowledge, you listen to what sky say to much. Sam is a special player really? Surely a special player would perform against the best players in the world, looking good in broken play in SL doesn' t mean much... its the eqivalent of a player looking great in the SPL or the Championship and claiming they're one of the best football players in the world, doesn't make much sense does it if they aren't performing against the best.
When he rips up the NRL, or International defences then I will concede he is special, otherwise his just a very good SL player... you could bring over at least 20 of the backs on the NRL and they would rip open SL defences for fun.'"
When has he had the chances to perform against the best players in the world? He get's 2 games at the end of a regular season against two far more superior coached sides whereas we are coached by McNamara. Thats a great indication!
He performs against the best Super League has to offer and he comes out on top against them too. I really cant believe I'm responding to your drivel
Also name the 20 backs please... |
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| Quote: Coventry Warrior! "
I get your point to an extent, but the coach has no bearing on a players ability to break a stronger defence. Moves etc can make a difference of course.
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| Quote: Ron "I said he was a very good SL player, I agree he would walk into our team when Hodgson retires, but I don't agree he is one of the best RL players in the world.... don't buy into the sky hype, its like when they try to make out Rooney is as good as Messi or Ronaldo.'"
Can tell you are backtracking now!
No one has said yet that he is the best RL player in the world, but on the evidence we have seen over his short career of 2 full seasons (including 1 at FB), its fair to say he is something special and if he carries on the way he has been progressing, there should be no reason why he won't be one of the best and most definitely one of the best Rugby League players Wigan has seen. |
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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Like you have a clue what Madge said to Joel, Sam, George and the boys.'"
Be suprised if he put his undies on the right way this morning. |
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