In Saints favour, they had a poor season in terms of injury yet finished 2nd with a supposed weak pack. I think Saints will be strong up front if they don't have the same injury situation.

Forgetting depth for one minute and just picking the 5 best men from each team. Then i'd have to agree that Saints have the top pack.

I'd say Wire are 2nd.

Morley runner up 2 years running for MoS
Monaghan is the leagues best hooker for me.
Anderson and Harrison are absolute monsters in defence and tire out the opposition with huge bone crunching hits.
Westwood is THE most underrated player in SL
Gaz Carvell seems to be our weakest link in the pack yet i'm sure the top clubs would take him.

The one thing no one can compete with Wigan though is the depth but if Wire and Saints keep their 1st players fit i wouldn't be too envious of Wigan

I'm not so sure about this lack of depth.

Wellens
Gardner
Shenton
Wheeler
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Graham
Roby
Perry
Wilkin
Soliola
Flannery

Moore
LMS
TP
Clough

Outside that we have Lomax/Foster/Armstrong/Gaskell as cover in the backs with 50 SL appearances and 23 tries between them.

In the forwards we have Ashurst/Dixon/Magennis/Frodsham with 89 SL appearances between them.

We had awful luck with injuries last year and the squad was strong enough to finish 2nd and reach the GF; in my opinion we have strengthened for 2011. Yes, we don't have as much depth as Wigan - but you can only play 17 players.

Had the situation been reversed in the GF and Wigan had Tomkins and TL injured (and Saints with Pryce and Eastmond fit) it wouldn't have mattered how many back rowers Wigan had in their squad.

I thought that there were six in a pack.

But you can't just do that, you have to consider at least nine (3 subs) and in many cases ten (four subs).

And how many of those do you honestly believe would get anywhere near the Wigan side especially when you consider what has happened at U20/ reserve level for the last three years.

How can you say that with Pryce in your squad, he's only good for a 10m out barge over try to the corner, biggest donkey i've seen for years and is it you that is one of his biggest defenders ?

He's got a squad number 26 and managed 13 tries from 9 games last season.
You get four points for no matter where you score from, Saints for example scored more tries from within 10 metres of the line than any other team in Superleague last season.

I'm voting that as Rogues favorite stat from 2010. He just needed to follow it up with "Saints the entertainers"

Of course Saints are missing their pack centrepiece a certain Mr Cunningham...

Cunningham is a once in a decade kind of player, very few players come through who are as good as KFC

quote me. "Roby can be better"

I firmly believe that and since he has signed i am scared that he can curse us like fatty KDC has for years.

Hoodoo=KFC=Hoodoo

hopefully that changes this year.

He's been a far better player for Saints than KC in recent seasons.

Has he balls. Keiron Cunningham would be Saints best player even if he didn't touch the ball or make a tackle in a game. His mere presence on the field made the 12 others perform better. The last couple of seasons Saints have shown we can look almost unbeatable with him on the field and absolutely shocking with him off it.

Coping without him is Saints major challenge next season.

On the positive side, having a second proper prop forward could make James Graham even better. If Perry and LMS can stay fit it could mean he gets rotated like a normal prop would.

I find it bizarre that everybody is suddenly talking up Saints pack on the basis of signing Perry and LMS and losing Cunningham. Yes they will be putting a strong pack on the field but no stronger than they have had in recent seasons. But it seems like this year its been very 'in vogue' to be talking up Saints as having a monster pack for some reason - its not as strong as it was a few years ago when they had Cayless, Fozzard and Faasavalu at their peak and a young Graham as the fourth prop, with Cunningham there still, now that was a good pack. Josh Perry is decent but again is he as good as Saints Aussie props of the past like Fairleigh and Britt....time will tell.

When Daniel Anderson was Saints coach then they were comfortably the strongest team in SL, now they aren't, they are one of a group of teams who will be competing for trophies, the others being Wigan, us and Leeds. I would not be surprised if they have a bit of a testing season, with a few surprise losses to lower ranked teams and pressure on Royce Simmons at some point in the year, only for them then to come through and be there or thereabouts when it comes to Wembley or Old Trafford.

Are you Phil Clarke, Rogues?