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Quote: magic piano "awful - that was pretty close to full strength & they were clueless in attack in 2nd half. '"

That was because we didn't have Tomkins on the field. Brown/Robinson just weren't the same level at all. No creativity between them. No ingenuity. Nothing much at all really.

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and we all know what happens to teams who rely on one man for inspiration & creativity - they win bugger all...

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I’m probably in a minority here, and I’ll get ripped for saying it:

I think these games are an unnecessary waste of time.
You risk your best players getting injured when they should be on holiday relaxing after a hard season.

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does`nt matter who we have as coach or who the coach picks..we are simply not good enough..god help us over the next few weeks..

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Quote: D56 "I’m probably in a minority here, and I’ll get ripped for saying it

eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif fully agree. I think think everyone can write the script, beaten by NZ, Mullered by the aussies, and a close win over PNG. Then we can all enjoy a NZ V Aussie final. Hate to be this negative about england (used to love the GB test matches.) but can't get excited about a mcnamara side.

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Looks like NZ warmed up in style!

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Looks like NZ warmed up in style!

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Quote: Fearnhead Cross "Looks like NZ warmed up in style!


I backed the kiwis for the 4 nations as soon as i seen noticed how many high profile Australians would be missing from their squad, at 4/1 the kiwis look to be value, i'd be very suprised if they didn't at least make the final.

Australia are no value at 2/5, they may well win but they have blew it against the kiwis a few times in recent years. I like how many creative players that the kiwis have in Nathan Fein, Issac Luke, Benji Marshall and Thomas Leuluai, you can even throw Ben Roberts into the mix. They look to have plenty of tries in them with Vatuvei and Shaun Kenny-Dowall out wide.

I just don't see it with England, we look too slow, too small, we lack skill across the backline and we don't look as powerful as the kiwis and aussies.

I was watching some old Great Britain games the other night and i'd say we have gone backwards at international level, even though we took some hammerings in the past against the aussies we did play some good RL at times. We certainly don't have an Andy Farrell at his peak, a Paul Sculthorpe, Keith Senior at his peak who was always a danger, Kris Radlinski etc etc.

Sam Tomkins looks the only danger in this current England backline, up front we looked workmanlike this morning ratrher than explosive which is what the kiwis and aussies will be like.

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Quote: Rob Wire "I backed the kiwis for the 4 nations as soon as i seen noticed how many high profile Australians would be missing from their squad, at 4/1 the kiwis look to be value, i'd be very suprised if they didn't at least make the final.
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A nice profitable end to the tournament.

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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t] [quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg



Quote: Rob Wire "A nice profitable end to the tournament.'"


im actually happy for you rob, but i think im more happy that the aussies lost the tournament! brilliant game yesterday!

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