I would rather have the two challenge cup's. The whole feeling off waking up at 5am to board a coach and not returning till about 10pm makes it a better experience. It is a bigger achievement winning the grand final but Wembley is better than it.

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I don't think it's the age, I think it's partly to do with it being closer but also partly because the Grand Final here doesn't seem to be given the same treatment that the NRL Grand Final is....I do think we could build it up a bit better. Obviously I've never seen Warrington in it but I've been to loads of Grand Finals as a neutral and the occasion all seems a bit rushed compared to the Challenge Cup final. I think the fans get slightly short changed.

However I'm not sure what else they could do, if they brought the kick off earlier and made a bit of extra razzmatazz it would just be like copying the Challenge Cup final, so maybe its best being as it is now, the Challenge Cup final is the game's flagship event, and the Super League Grand Final is the ultimate prize at the end of the season.

The funny thing is, if someone said to me now, would you swap winning the Challenge Cup in 2011 and 2012, or nothing in 2011 and the Super League Grand Final in 2012, I'm not sure which I would take, because the Challenge Cup wins have been so good I would like more of it, and doing 4 in a row is starting to get into history territory. The other bizarre fear in my mind is if we win a Grand Final soon, I might lose some of my enthusiasm for RL, because that will mean we've done everything, it would be nice to be a top side, winning Challenge Cups, and always having the Grand Final as the one that's eluded us, a bit like the Champions League was for United fans before 1999.....as long as we eventually do win it!

makes me laugh this a couple of years ago Wigan fans would be telling us at every opportunity that they won the Challenge cup 8 times on the bounce...everyone knows this ...no one knows that they won the league even more times on the bounce because the romance AND the occasion has and always will be with the Challenge Cup especially at Wembley.....

And How Bizare is it that the Same Wigan fans that havent been to Wembley for FIFTEEN long painful hurtfull years are now telling us its an easy competition to win..!!! well have a go at it if it so easy.....

its just a knockout competition....

I mean its not like you can..... say oh i dont know....do something like.... lose in the first round and then have another go against lesser opposition to get back in...is it......

knockout my ar$e

I had the same conversation earlier on tonight I'd have the same again next year ...no problem...

Been twice thanks, won both times.

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No,because Warringtons time will come. Another couple of seasons before we win a G.F. If am honest i dont think will win anything next season.

The CC will always be the fans, and players, one to win. Even Cunningham said the highlight of his career was lifting the CC.
The GF is little more than a cut down knock-out, where some teams get a second chance.
The True champions are the team that win the league, and though it pains me to say congrats to Wigan for that, it's just Sky and their money spinning media that try to make the GF big.
Would football have a play off at the end of the season to decide the champions? Think a certain Mr F would have something to say about that!

NO. as a fan the two trips to wembley have been amazing event. just waking up early, getting on a coach down there for hours then walk around a huge stadium like wmebley and then watch wire win. one word to say priceless!

I'd agree with what most on here have said.

As brilliant as it is to be Champions, winning back to back Challenge Cups is a fantastic achievement.

Who have we had to beat? You are kidding aren't you? Last year we had to beat Wigan in the Semis and this year we had Leeds, the (debatably now I grant you but) best team in SL in the final? Think about what you are saying please.

Of course winning the GF and SL is special. Of course I would love Warrington to win both. Frankly I am happy for us to win ANYTHING. Beats an empty cabinet.

I think I am old school though. Having watched the Wire for over 20 years, the CC and Wembley will always be special. I still get goosebumps when I remember that journey, that game and that win. Incidently I think it is Wembley that 'makes it'. The years when the CC was played elsewhere didin't appear to have the same magic?

In all honesty why compare. A winner's medal is a winner's medal. The Warrington players do have 2 back to back ones to clean however?

Could that be because we didn't compete in any of those finals? I wonder what people would answer to this question if we appeared in and lost both finals next year, or even lost one and won the other?

Probably cos I'm a bit younger so wasn't around for all the Wigan dominance in the CC. But for me the GF means a hell of a lot more, but as I say thats just me.

I agree though, both are very special. My point is though which (as a player) would you feel looking back on your career as a greater achievement?



Wigan who were a poor side last year. Leeds who haven't been the best this year.

But for what its worth, I don't think anyone could have beaten you in either cup.

C C ,you win 6 games some against very low league competitors and get a trophy. The G F means you have to win at least 15 games (nearer 2 dozen in Wigans case)to get to the play off stage then win another 2 or 3 against the top 8 teams in Europe to be crowned winners !!! No comparison.