i'll quote you on that, i can see us beating Wigan at there we should of won this year, we have as good as chance as Wigan. saints and leeds or have you not seen the league table yet ?

get the monkey that is Saints off our back and I will fear nobody.

It's pleasing the Wire are riding high in the table with an excellent defensive record. This has been achieved without resorting to the wrestlacheatathon which some teams have sunk to. Hopefully the powers that be sort this situation out PDQ. It's strangling the game. We all know who the biggest culprits are and I can only echo the views of John Kear. The next time we meet them in the knock out stages of a competition perhaps this underhand Aussie method of playing the game will have been eliminated. A start could be made by telling the referees to stop shouting MOVE at the play the ball. Tacklers are looking behind them waiting for the referees instruction to MOVE. If they've time to look round at the referee then they have time to get off the tackle quickly and if they don't penalise them out of the game.

Its pleasing to know we can win games even when will play poor.I would like to think we will only get better and strong and more confident in what Ts is trying to archieve with this team.You just the feeling we will just start to step up a gear as the season progesses.If the first 19 are feeling confident and the team spirt in the camp is good then surley that will filter down to the lads like Mitchell McCartney etc etc,so when they are called on for 1st team action.You know they wont want let the side down.

Fully agree with you on this one! If we can beat saints we can beat anyone! (we've beat Leeds away in the play-offs before ao it can be done, and we now have a better team).

I honestly believe we can do it. I'm not saying I expect us too, but I genuinely believe it's a possibility. Although I must add I would still be satisfied with finishing in the top four.

If we don't do very well, no doubt som people will jump down the players throats but that's just them being naive and unrealistic.

In Smith We Trust!!

I used to go into each season and indeed, each game very optimistic. These days, I take each game as it comes and don't celebrate a win and/or league position until the game is securely in the bag.

I'm doing the same across the whole campaign

I'm wobbling a bit now. 36 points conceded is just like the bad old days. Mind you it may be just a blip. We were not at the races today and missed Monaghan from the start at the Carvell loss early on took it's toll.

We are vulnerable to injuries, despite what people say about it being a big squad etc. Its easy to say we have competition for places and have good players to come in, when we have a full squad, but if there are any injuries in the front row we will struggle, we don't have the depth there. I do think however that unexpected reverses like today will happen through the season to all the teams at the top of the table, it is a fairly even league these days, the top will rise to the top over the end of the season, with us probably in the top 5, ideally the top 4.

Agreed. It is also the nature of sport generally, irrespective of the eveness of the league. Everyone has to take a beating every now and again. I heard the classic phrases at the game today 'same old Warrington' and 'we shouldn't be losing to teams like Hull KR'. What crap. Just beacuse we've made a great start to the season we're forbidden from losing games badly or to teams below us in the league? Didn't we finish 6 places below them last year?

Being bullish is a mindset. It is going into a game with the confidence of your group that you will overcome anything that the opposition throw at you. It is not the attitude of: "We should win every game as we are the best,if we don't the ref is bent, the sky is falling in", for that attitude see our close neighbours. The single biggest element of being bullish, for me, is not to wallow in self pity after defeat, but to simply say; do we know where we went wrong? If so let us not do it again and move on to the next task.