I'll be voting for Labour, because what people seem to happily ignore is that Labour have prevented a Recession becoming a Depression.

The plain story is that the Conservatives got the Economic Downturn completely wrong, the hardest hit would have been left abandoned and they were the only party in World Politics to oppose fiscal stimulus.

And if the Conservatives win, it will be places like Warrington which see cuts first because of the fact we are a Labour area.

And I find it increasingly annoying the amount of people voting for "minor" parties which have no hope of winning. Are people too stupid to see that it is a clear choice between Labour and Tory, Brown and Cameron?

The fact that 3 mindless idiots have stated intention to vote for the BNP is nothing short of sickening. Do they want to extradite our players of colour and our foreign players?

How do make out that Labour has failed us ?
The schools are better , the NHS is better the Emergency services are better All things which the conservatives destroyed, remember it was the conservatives who introduced the fuel escalator and sold off the governments jewels gas elec phones everything that made the country money we also had 15% interest rates the last time the conservatives were in power .
The recession was caused by America and greedy banks something that would have happened no matter who was in power but would have been worse if the conservatives had been there.
So explain where have labour failed us ?

i am with you on this one.

Life has got worse under Labour, not better. Schools are worse than they ever were, kids go in with knives, tell their teachers to f- off and teachers live in fear of saying anything to them in case they get hauled up in front of the LEA. Transport is a nightmare now and the trains have basically priced people out of the market. It's rock hard to get registered with an NHS dentist because they have all gone private. Energy bills are sky high and the reality for most ordinary families is paying for running their homes takes up a big chunk of their monthly income especially in winter. If you were rich enough to be able to take advantage of the property boom by accumulating more than one property, then you were able to do well under Labour but most of us have been left behind.

The worst thing is the cheek they have now in talking about the massive deficit in state finances. Labour loved the whole PFI business in their early years, Blair was terrified of antagonising "middle england" so they raised money for short term investment not through taxation but through borrowing off private investors...."Public-Private Partnership" was never a partnership, it was just borrowing money from the private sector guaranteed to be paid back with stacks of interest over the long term, by the taxpayer. I remember back ten years ago the outrage in the public sector where everyone was warning the government they were mortgaging our future and racking up huge debts where the interest would be eating away at the public budget more and more each time a PFI contract was signed. The Labour government didn't care, because that was the way they could finance having their cake and eating it - low taxes for Middle England, but saying they'd found money to pay for public sector investment. Now ten years on Alastair Darling stands up and makes speeches telling the public sector they have to be honest with us and "break the bad news" that the public finances are in a shocking state, we can't afford to pay back our debt, so the public sector has to be ready to make big sacrifices.......where have you been for the last ten years mate....debt doesn't create itself overnight

All the extra money that Labour spent on the public services didn't really get much return, they over bureaucratised everything and made professionals like teachers, nurses and policemen spend more and more time on paperwork auditing themselves for Labour's league tables and disillusioned them from the profession.

i am not going to waste time picking holes in every section of your post,you are wrong,the wrongdoings of thatchers government are still felt in many communities today.
i left school into thatchers britain,times were bad,times are difficult for people leaving school now because of a WORLDWIDE recession not one caused by a government like maggies with their boom and bust mentality.
we will shortly come out of this recession,what would cameron have done had he been in power,the answer in his own words he'd "have let it run it's course"
and christ knows where we'd end up then.

And we've had a Labour government for the last 13 years with huge majorities.

Labour had a choice, they could either carry on with Mrs Thatchers policies or take a different approach.

Sally cinnamon, just a few points.
Transport overpriced? Wasn't it the Tories who sold off the railways and privatised the buses?
Energy bills sky high? Wasn't it the Tories who sold off the power companies?
PPP and PFI? Wasn't it the Tories who first introduced such arrangements?
There have been problems with NHS dentistry, but there are now NHS dentists in Warrington taking new patients.

I don't pretend that everything is fine with Labour, and Brown is certainly not a man to inspire many to vote for him, including me. But how can anyone trust the Tory toffs not to look after their own, and to hell with the rest.
Nothing changes does it?

The One that got away - are you a Private Eye reader? Iask as you mention Pa Broon.

By building debt that our kids and grandchildren will struggle to pay back. Apparently every man, woman and child is owed at least £5000 by the government as they prop up banks and public spending.

As RL Stevenson said, 'sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences'.

Only because when one party fails people just go with the other 'big un' because they are lazy or it's the easy option, or maybe they have a 'better the devil you know' attitude?
If we actually though of voting for the one we think will work best for ourselves rather than the Tories because 'that will get rid of Labour' we might start to move on as a species.

The whole thing is a joke.. i wont be voteing for anyone. this country isnt even our own anymore. 3.000.000 on the dole and and you got some stupid women mp saying theres room for more polish and south africans to come over to work. but your not aloud to say anything coz its racist. the banks are robbering us and the mp's too.. and what happends to them.. thay have to stand up in parliment and say sorry! its a joke. we should be more like australia imo.

The Tories did that two decades ago. Labour's been in for 13 years and they've done nothing about it. Whats the point voting for a Labour party that supports Mrs Thatchers policies? Labour supports privatisation, all of Blair and Brown's talk has always been about private sector being more efficient, how can we utilise the private sector in public sector delivery.

Labour privatised the mobile phone airwaves, parts of the London Underground, schools, hospitals, doctors surgeries and prisons also got flogged, the Post Office is next on the list....

They have hid behind the idea that we "can't turn the clock back", ie the Lady's Not for Turning. Yes we can, just go to the markets and buy them, hey presto they're in public ownership. When the private banks made a pigs ear of the financial sector the government turned up with £131bn to take them into state ownership. If you don't like Thatchers policies don't vote for the parties that support her.

You usually talk a lot of sense maybe you should stick to rugby, something you know about rather than spout all the garbage you have in this thread !
Pretty obvious you know nothing about the economy or politics !

Sally Cinnamon must either be a Civil Servant or a Local Government employee from her comments, and expects a Labour government to nationalise everything that moves.
Just because Labour didn't do as she wanted, she wants a socialist "Utopia", which will never exist. Command socialism requires a virtual dictatorship.
Or is that what you want Sally?

Not a dictatorship Rich I'd be quite happy to have lived under Clement Attlee's government, or Harold Wilson's, the difference in those days was they didn't want to detain you for ever more increasing times without trial, they didn't arrest you for writing a joke on Twitter, they didn't want to push ID cards on everybody. I prefer a society where the State doesn't want to know what you're doing and control every aspect of your life, so no New Labour for me thanks.