Get them out get widnes in

If you think that Super League would benefit from not having Catalans in it, he's probably right, though.

No not atall how would that make me a fool? its an opinion. people have different opinions it dont make them a fool does it.

I didnt say we would benefit better without catalans in super league i just IMO think rugby league should be kept in the rugby league heartlands. id much rather see leigh,halifax.. ect in super league than a french team.

i agree kick them out along with quins..the combined total of 50 fans wont be missed at the h&j...

And the SKY money that keeps the game alive would be considerably less if it were, as would sponsorship revenue, general commercial interest and TV price wars. Catalans have added so much to Super League, they are unbelieveable success. The RFL can say to prospective TV companies and advertisers that their product will not just be seen by people in Wigan and Castlefor, but also Cardiff, Carcassone and Barcelona. It might be seen as selling out, but we'd be nowhere without it.

...but that would mean the RFL admitting that letting them in was a 'mistake', which will never happen.
I would personally love to see Crusaders survive and be successful in SL, as with other potential expansions (Toulouse, Paris, Cumbria etc...) but if they move to Wrexham, I can't see that happening

I would like The Crusaders to stay in Super League. Not in Wrexham though.

Halifax and Leigh will have a less of a average attendance than Catalans. Fact.

Halifax and Leigh will never finish in the top 6. Fact

Catalan embarrass the "heartlands" that you are wittering on about. Fact

Rafa rant over. And i stand by my post, you are a fool if you think Catalan dont deserve their place over the likes of Halifax and Leigh

As an expansion debate is kicking off again, here's a genuine question; at what point do Warringtonians stop thinking "I'm all right Jack" and start worrying?We have seen a number of traditional RL heartland clubs fall by the wayside in recent years, consigned to the lower divisions in the name of expansion, yet still we see posts such as this

Now yes, everybody is entitled to an opinion and that is fine, but where are all these teams of the future going to fit? Will Super League be extended to twenty teams? I highly doubt it.

I would say we are currently the sixth "biggest" team in SL. Irrespective of league positions over the last year or two I believe Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Bradford and Hull FC are bigger than us. Hull KR have huge potential although Craven Park could do with a lick of paint and Huddersfield showed a lot of growth last year and also have the benefits of a 25,000 seater stadium and "The Birthplace of Rugby League tag" meaning that's two clubs who POTENTIALLY could push us down to eighth in the pecking order.

If we allow Castleford, Wakefield and Salford to go to make room for Toulouse, Paris and Cumbria and regard Catalans, Crusaders and Harlequins are safe then Warrington are suddenly looking over our shoulders when people start talking about Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dublin are we not?

I am a Warrington RLFC supporter, not a "Rugby League Supporter" and as soon as Warrington RLFC cease to exist (or merge with Widnes...) I will stop attending games.

The "I'm all right Jack" expansionist brigade need to have a think now and again about where we came from and who we are: The Northern Rugby Football Union.

Wrexham is great, theres a Levelesque bar called chequers that does all drinks a £1.

NO NO and no they have fell by the wayside because they have been consistantly Poor for years...Halifax and Leigh had their chances and finished stone cold bottom of the league.
jesus in 1996 Leigh were in the 3rd tier of rugby league and at the bottom end of it with Chorley chieftans and South Wales. in 1998 they finished rank last of the second league, thats nothing to do with Quinns Catalan or anything else remotley linked with "expansionism" more likely hillbilly northern jokers trying to run a rugby league club.....


I think The "interest" in Welsh, Scottish, and Irish Rugby League means we dont even have to glance over our shoulders at all...
Welsh rugby is as dead as dodo the others havent even started...!

as long as we, as the only club never to have played out of the top flight continue with our "house in order" we will be as safe as Leeds Saints and Wigan...

but great scaremongering of the highest order pal...

For various reasons not enough people in Wales are interested in our sport to point where they want to jump out of their chair and get to a Crusaders game. Even with big financial support it just isn't enough to move them from a 'novelty' club to a force in the game imo. I would like them to suceed but just can't see it happening. I'm all for expansion but not to point of wasting Sky's contract money to support it and keeping well supported and well run heartland teams out of the top tier because of a few poor seasons on the field. For me Widnes and Halifax have shown they should be in SL and the strive to expand the sport shouldn't be a reason to forcibly keep them out of it.

There not facts though are thay! you just made them up in your head.

Did i say thay didnt deserve a place in super league? no. i said id rather have leigh,halifax..ect

The rugby league want to exspand and in the mean time our heartland clubs are paying the price and slipping away.

Catalans away support is alot less than what would be if leigh,halifax were in super league.


Rafa rant? its you that sounds like the fool mate.

Me too.