For the first month or two after him taking over there were still some shocking performances.

After that Leeds game, the next five games saw us lose three terrible ones, with Quins away, Salford away and Cas at home. After Round 9 we were 13th, and anybody who puts that down to Smith is clueless, despite the fact that Smith had been in charge for 5 of those 9 games.

Of the next 10 games, we won 8 of them (excluding cup).

We also lost because of the Challenge Cup final, I am convinced of that.

Look at the actual results and what happened, who beat us etc. and if you still think that Smith hasn't improved us, then I give up.

The thing that has to be changed most is how many points we concede. For the last 4 years we have conceded over 700 points and only once in the last 4 years have we finished without negative points difference

2006 For 743 Against 721 Difference +22
2007 693 736 -43
2008 690 713 -23
2009 649 705 -56


To be challenging at the top of the table this trend has to be reversed and we need to be conceding 100 to 150 points less a season, it won't happen overnight but the one man who is capable of doing this is Tony Smith. Anyone who thinks otherwise, for me, needs their head examining.

We WILL be contesting the grand final next year and as soon as this season finishes and the odds for next year come out i will be getting straight down to the bookies. Whilst saints are signing the likes of fozzard just look at who we have recruited. Ask yourselves some questions, would you want any other teams squad over ours? And would you have any other coach in SL in charge of them?

The turn around looks more black-and-white in TS's favour when you consider that the Quins thrashing away was our tenth consecutive defeat - the worst losing run in the club's entire history, including such bleak periods as the late 60s to early 70s when we were being watched by 3 or 4 thousand hardy souls at Wilderspool and fielding a team of mainly 'journeymen'.

I'll give you 7/4

Deluded.

How many times does a team have to fail on the pitch before you admit that maybe the team on paper is not that good?

You all talk about consistency but I have not seen one Warrington performance even close to Leeds or Saints on form.

We outplayed leeds on their own patch (admittedly losing in the last seconds) when we had the semi final a week later. This is no longer a cullen team you are all dealing with so be afraid.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm quite enjoying being deluded, and have been since 29.8.09.

smiff is

Sack Smith.

smith out

get in jon sharp

bring back jimmy.