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Quote: RyanWire "and who could blame him if he left. The so called fans would have carried both him and King on their shoulders back to Aus 6 months ago. Reminds me of the Liverpool fans who wonder why Alonso left this summer.'"


Last time I checked I thought this was a RL forum?

But seeing as you have made a totally incorrect comparison I will try and explain it to you.

Imagine if Smith had been touting Morley to other clubs in the hope of trying to bring in someone else to replace him - naturally you would think he would be annoyed and would want out and you wouldn't blame him.

LFC fans left the manager in no doubt at a pre season friendly and the 1st few games of the season last summer what he could do with Gareth Barry - it involved shoving him somewhere where the sun doesn't shine sideways.

After Gerrard he has been the best player for the previous 18 months and held in such high regard by the fans.

So just to summarise, a major factor in him leaving was down to the manager and not the fans wanting him out as you have tried to compare incorrectly the treatment of Monaghan by Warrington fans as the same as LFC fans with Alonso.

I follow LFC home and away and it was the 1st game I've missed in a long time on Saturday to go Wembley watching Warrington. So to everyone I apologise for the long winded football related post but I have to correct totally inaccurate posts!

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Quote: Rugbychickâ„¢ "Now that's a turnaround. I'd never believed 6 months ago I'd reading posts begging Monas to stay!

to be honest i'm not one for getting on the back of players. He had a high reputation plus moving to the other side of the world, if he say it has taken longer than thought for him to settle in, then i believe him.

These last few games he has been world class. the semi in particular and i felt sorry for him that he hadnt got MOM as that was his best game by a mile in P n B. though he also had an imense game in the final and was so pleased for him. icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: dmg28 "Last time I checked I thought this was a RL forum?

But seeing as you have made a totally incorrect comparison I will try and explain it to you.

Imagine if Smith had been touting Morley to other clubs in the hope of trying to bring in someone else to replace him - naturally you would think he would be annoyed and would want out and you wouldn't blame him.

LFC fans left the manager in no doubt at a pre season friendly and the 1st few games of the season last summer what he could do with Gareth Barry - it involved shoving him somewhere where the sun doesn't shine sideways.

After Gerrard he has been the best player for the previous 18 months and held in such high regard by the fans.

So just to summarise, a major factor in him leaving was down to the manager and not the fans wanting him out as you have tried to compare incorrectly the treatment of Monaghan by Warrington fans as the same as LFC fans with Alonso.

I follow LFC home and away and it was the 1st game I've missed in a long time on Saturday to go Wembley watching Warrington. So to everyone I apologise for the long winded football related post but I have to correct totally inaccurate posts!'"


Im quite impressed that as a Liverpool fan you managed to write so much text without quoting a "Shankly said" comment. Well done.

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Quote: RyanWire "Im quite impressed that as a Liverpool fan you managed to write so much text without quoting a "Shankly said" comment. Well done.'"


No logical answer, then?

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "No logical answer, then?'"


if you want. Both were examples of players who were unwanted and have then since delivered the goods so it isnt a shock when they leave. I'll give you that there is a slight difference in who they were unwanted by.

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Always been a class act, just needed a decent coach to get the best out of him

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Quote: RyanWire "if you want. Both were examples of players who were unwanted and have then since delivered the goods so it isnt a shock when they leave. I'll give you that there is a slight difference in who they were unwanted by.'"


Ever wondered why they were unwanted?

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Quote: Robbie Rotten "Ever wondered why they were unwanted?'"


but the point was how fickle fans are and how quick they change their tune.

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Quote: RyanWire "but the point was how fickle fans are and how quick they change their tune.'"


er no it wasnt because you saidand who could blame him if he left. The so called fans would have carried both him and King on their shoulders back to Aus 6 months ago. Reminds me of the Liverpool fans who wonder why Alonso left this summer.

your saying that King and Monaghan had received stick from sections of the Warrington crowd and the same for Alonso at LFC

so what you were implying is that LFC fans had treated Alonso badly and then wondered why he left???

as stated this was not even a factor for him leaving

how have LFC fans have been fickle? how have they changed their tune?

im guessing by your first educated and witty response to my post is that Liverpool isnt your team.

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Quote: RyanWire "but the point was how fickle fans are and how quick they change their tune.'"


Well isn't that to be expected?

Alonso has two fairly average seasons by his own standards, he didn't look up to it and we needed British players. He never left, he upped his game and he earned himself a £35m move to Real Madrid. Not bad. Liverpool fans weren't fickle though, and you could argue some Wire fans haven't been. The majority of supporters weren't impressed with Monaghan or King and rightly so, but some people felt King needed to be played on the wing, whilst Mona's needed to be moved to hooker. It just so happens to be that when Smith moved King to the wing, when he moved Mona's to hooker, that their performances gradually improved.

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Looked at this post regarding Monas now it's turned into a bloody Alonso debate. Well is he going or what? And I don't mean Alonso.

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Quote: Warrington Wolf "Looked at this post regarding Monas now it's turned into a bloody Alonso debate. Well is he going or what? And I don't mean Alonso.'"


I apologised for this in my first post as I knew where this thread was heading but I had to speak up as what the lad said was incorrect.

And besides he started it icon_razz.gif

Oh and I think Monaghan will stay icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Warrington Wolf "Looked at this post regarding Monas now it's turned into a bloody Alonso debate. Well is he going or what? And I don't mean Alonso.'"


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