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Blythe was terrible tonight. Fell off tackles, several knock on's and gave 2 or 3 penalties away. I thought he was the next big thing last year, thought he was a sure star for the future. This year he has been very disappointing, 8 appearances and more often then not it has been the same story.

Pickers I thought played very well when you consider the overall team performance. Arguably our best prop tonight, certainly outperformed Cooper and Rauhihi. No penalties or errors from the big man today which can not be said for the other three, but he didn't have the same amount of game time.

If Carvell is fit next week I would drop Rauhihi and keep Pickers and Cooper on the bench. He looked incapable of keeping up with the defensive line on several occasions.

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Quote: Ulster Wire "Rah and Johnson should be out the door. Johnno has performed in the past when fit but the trouble is hes never fit anymore and I think its caught up with him.

Rah is simply awful. Blythe and Picks I would like to be given more time to develop. Preferably with loan spells at other clubs.'"


spot on post!

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Quote: Ulster Wire "Rah and Johnson should be out the door. Johnno has performed in the past when fit but the trouble is hes never fit anymore and I think its caught up with him.

Rah is simply awful. Blythe and Picks I would like to be given more time to develop. Preferably with loan spells at other clubs.'"
Rah and Johnson are at real risk of losing out on a Wembley spot.

They simply can't go on with the amount of errors they make.

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Quote: W.F "Blythe was terrible tonight. Fell off tackles, several knock on's and gave 2 or 3 penalties away. I thought he was the next big thing last year, thought he was a sure star for the future. This year he has been very disappointing, 8 appearances and more often then not it has been the same story.

Pickers I thought played very well when you consider the overall team performance. Arguably our best prop tonight, certainly outperformed Cooper and Rauhihi. No penalties or errors from the big man today which can not be said for the other three, but he didn't have the same amount of game time.

If Carvell is fit next week I would drop Rauhihi and keep Pickers and Cooper on the bench. He looked incapable of keeping up with the defensive line on several occasions.'"



Sorry mate, thought Cooper had a good game tonight and far outshone Pickers.
I reckon Pickersgill will come good one day pretty soon though.

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Quote: W.F "Arguably our best prop tonight, certainly outperformed Cooper and Rauhihi..'"


Good one mate, you nearly had me then...you little joker you.

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Pickersgill will be 24 later this year so can't really be described as a developing youngster anymore. Cooper, Mitchell and lots of others are miles ahead of him now, we should at least give Adam Neal (who only turned 19 in May) a chance instead.

Blythe has made too many mistakes and gave away too many penalties in the games he has played at SL level, but he's only 20 so has got some more time.

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Don't be too hard on Blythe, he gets very few chances in the first team and is probably trying too hard, meaning mistakes are bound to creep in.

I used to think Cooper was a bit of a liability on the field, but as he has been given a longer run in the team he has settled into it, and is now looking like a solid player, with plenty of potential.

It was a tough game for many of our kids last night, there were a lot of them out there, playing against a fired up, in form Wigan side.

Picks is probably destined for a career outside SL, but far too early to make that kind of judegement on Blythe.

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Quote: Antro "Don't be too hard on Blythe, he gets very few chances in the first team and is probably trying too hard, meaning mistakes are bound to creep in.
I used to think Cooper was a bit of a liability on the field, but as he has been given a longer run in the team he has settled into it, and is now looking like a solid player, with plenty of potential.

It was a tough game for many of our kids last night, there were a lot of them out there, playing against a fired up, in form Wigan side.

Picks is probably destined for a career outside SL, but far too early to make that kind of judegement on Blythe.'"


I think it's quite the opposite, he looks like he couldn't give a monkeys. Lazy mistakes like not locking the ball in, or lying on a defender tha tsecond too long when you know, like your in the crowd shouting "Gerrrrro..." and Silverwood has given it.

He looks borderline braindead out there at times. You look at say Mitchell, I've seen him make errors, but his game awareness looks far superior to me.

Rauhihi is a disgrace. I'm done with him, have been for a year. What kills me with him, is on a night like last night, I want a 35 year old former Test captain, to get hold of McCarthy, Picks etc and have a queit word, call on his experience, y'know, solid sets, get to a kick, make the hard yards, coax them through. Instead, we get this fat wally run on, fling the ball on the floor (not on offload, sorry) and cough up cheap possesion, over & over. I just think he sets a crap example.

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Quote: Tony Catsmith "pickers didn't really stand out for me either way, blythe disapointingly cack again tonight, it really really is disapointing considering how awesome he was last year.


Also can i just point out i cba starting a thread on him, but Rah, seriously don't kid anyone asking for a new contract, your done man.'"


All of the following need to be shown the door as they are not good enough for SL or Warrington Wolves;

Pickersgill
Blythe
Rauhihi
Johnson
Penny

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Quote: Natters "All of the following need to be shown the door as they are not good enough for SL or Warrington Wolves;

Pickersgill
Blythe
Rauhihi
Johnson
Penny'"


I agree minus Penny, I'm not done with him yet. I want to see what happens to him under Smith.

If it was like, a chcklist for what I want from someone, he's cool, he's just missing something, but it'd like ...

Raw RL Ingrediants - Tick.
Appetite for the game - Tick.
Team Ethic - Tick.
Willingness to learn - Tick.
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I just want Smith to find that something.

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Quote: JWP "I agree minus Penny, I'm not done with him yet. I want to see what happens to him under Smith.

If it was like, a chcklist for what I want from someone, he's cool, he's just missing something, but it'd like ...

Raw RL Ingrediants - Tick.
Appetite for the game - Tick.
Team Ethic - Tick.
Willingness to learn - Tick.
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I just want Smith to find that something.'"


Positional sense perhaps?

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Quote: Natters "Positional sense perhaps?'"


Y'know, I though he had that last night, more of it anyhow. He took his position off the people inside him, y'know. He must have had four centres inside him last night, so that didn't help, Westwood, Bridge, VA. Hard to be cohesive.

He got done with the Richards try first half, fine.

From then on, he was good. Put himself between man & ball on a couple of occasions, was in good positions to field kicks and defused threats well, one in the first half where Tomkins kicked cross field, he did well.

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Blythe had a shocker last night, cant see him playing again this season, a loan spell wouldnt hurt him. Didnt really notice picks do anything particularly bad or good.

Rauhihi has been a liability for 12 months, he offloads occasionally but most of the time its just a wild throw backwards. What gets me is that he always goes into the tackle backwards, how are you supposed to break the line doing that? He should look at Moz, carvell or cooper - forwards who go forward and hold the ball, yes they will offload if the time is right but certainly not on every occassion.

I think Johnson is an honest bloke who gives his all, unfortunately I think his head is set on a move to Wigan next year.

Penny did ok last night, didnt get a huge amount of ball but did ok when he hid.

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Quote: JWP "Y'know, I though he had that last night, more of it anyhow. He took his position off the people inside him, y'know. He must have had four centres inside him last night, so that didn't help, Westwood, Bridge, VA. Hard to be cohesive.

He got done with the Richards try first half, fine.

From then on, he was good. Put himself between man & ball on a couple of occasions, was in good positions to field kicks and defused threats well, one in the first half where Tomkins kicked cross field, he did well.'"


If he is in the team then the team have to play to his strengths and use his best attribute - speed.

All too often when he is in the team he is seen as just a liability or weakness because we dont seem capable of playing to his strengths. I was crying out for someone to put him away in clear ground last night but it never happened and never looked like happening.

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Quote: Natters "If he is in the team then the team have to play to his strengths and use his best attribute - speed.

All too often when he is in the team he is seen as just a liability or weakness because we dont seem capable of playing to his strengths. I was crying out for someone to put him away in clear ground last night but it never happened and never looked like happening.'"


For me, he was playing on the wing in which he's least effective for a start. He's always looked a more natural left than right, with his carry & step. But to see him in the side was good.

We didn't have the creative players in our side last night to try to create for him. I'd like to have seen him on the left when Louis made that break early doors. I was also gutted he didn't take that intercept at the second attempt.

I think there's enough to work with, we shouldn't wirte him off.

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