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Quote: mark_m "This a monumentally daft thread even for here. To even get to the point of having a career in the sport the player must have consistently exhibited exceptional talent through game after game in junior, youth and academy grade rugby.'"


No you're wrong. It's about who has made the most out of limited talent, some just work very hard and and really make the most of what they've got. These people are in all walks of life not just RL.

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Quote: Big Ask "No you're wrong. It's about who has made the most out of limited talent, some just work very hard and and really make the most of what they've got. These people are in all walks of life not just RL.'"


I believe Morley wasnt considered the most talented player at youth level and early on. He struggled at first when he went to australia.
Now whether he had immense talent hidden underneath or just worked very, very hard I don't know.
Jamie Peacock probably comes under this category too

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In answer to the original question, she worked wonders with limited talent.



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Paul Cullen and Mark Forster were 2 players who made good long careers out of limited talent but had the dedication and commitment to make the very most out of what they had.

Would also Nat Wood more recently who had bags of heart and was incrand edibly fit but not the most talented half back ever.

I would hope that Kevin Penny could look at someone like Mark Forster and realise that just because he's struggling to get into the Warrington team this season, dedication and effort will be rewarded. Kevin is much faster obviously, just needs to apply himself and keep learning and could have a long career at the top.

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Agree about Cull.
Some talent but real determination.

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Quote: FireWire "David Beckham.'"


That's actually a good call.

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Quote: Big Ask "That's actually a good call.'"


Not really, Beckhams been one of the best midfielders of my generation.

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Quote: Wembley2009 "Not really, Beckhams been one of the best midfielders of my generation.'"


He was a winger who wasnt fast, couldnt take anyone on and didnt really pitch in with much other than what was his main attribute a wicked cross.
Ok, he was one of if not the best crosser of a ball in his generation but not much else. His status does not match his ability as there are far far far better players who have not had the same hype / coverage as he got.

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Quote: Wembley2009 "Not really, Beckhams been one of the best midfielders of my generation.'"


Honest to god he could never be described as one of the best midfielders of any generation.

One of the best crossers of the ball ever, but thats it. Got found out in La Liga, especially seen as the media weren't in his back pocket over there.

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