Perhaps a lot of them couldn't afford it.

Perhaps parents wouldn;t take their kids to Wilderspool because it was a dive whereas the HJ has more seats.

Perhaps the club have pulled their finger out with promoting the team?

Just because somebody has only recently started going doesn;t make them any less of a fan/supporter.

it was a tenner for a wolfpack season ticket not realy much.

it didnt seem a dive at the time i dont think coz most of the grounds looked the same and i still thought ours looked impressive full.

There is a reason we needed a new ground, and that crowds increased overnight.

People didn't want to pi$$ in a gutter, or have no chance of getting food or drink in the ground, or have a restricted view, or have a stadium with three sides.

I guess you didn't go then ?
If you had you would have noticed it was full of die hard SUPPORTERS who gave up their night and money to support squadbuilder and the club and I would have said it was full of people whom the majority had supported them for a lot longer than you have !

Don't take it personally 71, he's not questioning your manhood, he's only seeking to draw a disctinction between different types of spectators.

It's a moot point anyway - the reality is that if only the die hards turned up, we wouldn't amount to very much. Every club needs their 'walk up' support.

I think Che is right - the only comment I'd make is that he's got it the wrong fan round, isn't 'fan' short for 'fanatical'? Shouldn't that label be applied to the 'thick and thing' supporters?

any successful sporting club needs fans and supporters,a loyal hardcore following needs supplementing by people who attend as and when.people react differently to results but everyone reacts the same to lack of effort,i don't think we'll see much of that under ts now,did everyone there last night at some point boo a cullen side of the pitch,i did and i would do it again if i thought they weren't trying.

Bit close to the truth was he fella, seems to have hit a raw nerve with you this one, TS was spot on about the fans and supporters scenario, people have there own take on what constitutes a fan and a supporter but TS was right about the two categories in general.

Part-time, glory hunting band wagon jumper. Why don't you stay away and leave the team to the real supporters.

I think because there would only be 52 people at every game.

How many of the packed room stayed for the AGM of Squadbuilder/Supporters Trust?

Yawn..

I reckon about 20, if that?

I didn't make my point very well because I was annoyed at the time. I did not attend but I understand the point to be as shown below. In relation to this point my view is that it is the supporters/fans job to make clear what is acceptable and what isn't when considering the performance on the pitch. This is often achieved through staying away and booing/not clapping etc. It is also the supporters/fans job to salute achievement and to cheer the team on. In the dark days of early 2009 the team always came out to rapturous applause only for themselves to put in a performance which deserved derision.

I am of the belief that the reaction of the crowd at the Cas home game in 2008 made PC's position untenable, and quite rightly so for all the reasons we have discussed. That team deserved to be booed off, as it did at Harlequins this year when they clearly turned it in.

I took exception to Tony Smith's comments as he hasn't experienced the dross that we have over the last n years and in no position to comment on what it is like to be a Warrington fan. Those fans who do/did boo have watched Warrington long before his arrival, and will do long after he has gone.

So in summary, yes support your team, but also you need to voice dissatisfaction too when it is merited.