.and four times for one of our players to prove themselves against Gleeson.

As highly as I rate the player when he is on form, he never performed anywhere near his best playing for us after 2005. But he showed he was still one of England's best three quarters in the World Cup so in that sense getting rid of him is a bad move.

Would be interesting if TS picked Gleeson for England in July.



Could not agree more.

As much as I share your sentiments 1-5, we have to concede surely that Wigan, over the last 3 seasons, have progressed 8th-6th-4th in the league final positions, whilst we have not shown any progression. So not sure how we can argue that we are a "team on the up".

Also, I believe points 2 through 4 apply to Mr Briers also.

i've seen it happen so many times, especially wigan! andy gregory for one, i could list more .
we sell players they show more skill against us than they ever did for us

There hasn't been many players making the transfer from Warrington to Wigan. I am struggling to think of any.

Billy McGinty, Neil Courtney, Brian Case, Ian Potter, Martin Crompton are all recent examples that spring to mind.

A Wire fan actually looking a the facts and seeing sence. Well done

Well that helps with what I was thinking. They are all more than ten years ago or more and none of them are in the Andy Gregory or Martin Gleeson class.

Although thinking about it the flow of players from Wigan to Warrington has hardly been sparkling either.

brian case
ian potter
fieldhouse

first ones who popped in my mind

there is more

Kieth Holden was an absolutely brillaint player for us whose career was sadly ruined by a pot-hole on a joke of a Station Road pitch.

sorry your wrong, wigan won everything in those days, read your history books

and they all bit us on the bum, my point proven, the case for the defence rests me thinks

Andy Gregory was sensational for Warrington. I wouldn't put him down as an under-performer who starred for Wigan.

David Myers (RIP) would be the classic example for me - we played him at prop and he moved to Wigan and became an international winger.

Wrong that Fieldhouse, Case and Potter are not in the Gleeson/ Gregory class? Don't think so. And those mentioned were all at least twelve years ago or more.

You seem to forget that they won 'everything' because they were the only full time team at that time.

Selling Gleeson will not bite us in the backside. This could be the start of players at the club being professional, treating the club with respect and being a TEAM for the first time in living memory.

I like that.