What's that got to do with anything ?

What he said.

Poppers?

I'm waiting for Ajay to come in and defend Briers to the hill like he normally does.

Monaghan is more than good enough, he has shown it in a Warrington shirt. For whatever reason his season tailed off after about six games and hasn't returned.

If he isn't happy, fair enough,but surely it is best for all concerned part company. It isn't the first time a player has been granted a release froma contract.

He took more control last night. Which is a positive, however it was only because Higham was so knackered he couldn't walk and somebody had to do something. I'm still very split with Monas.

Easy, Monaghan has come over being sold a state of the art club with internationals in every position, a sexy stadium full of die hard fans.

He arrived and his expectations were far above what he got. No wonder his form has dropped since joining.

Briers is finished. Full stop.

I know this is a bit off track from the discussion, but how was that try allowed by the video ref??...

Monaghan clearly took a head shot from behind, which was definitely part of the reason he lost the ball....

...Ah well, it wouldn't have made much difference anyway...

both monas and king have both got playing history to prove they are both good players, they just dont seem to have that self motivation bit of steel to become winners, they allow themselves to be dragged in to the team attitude and go through the motions.when it should be the other way round.shame really dont have the answers but do know self motivated winners dont need motivating they provide it.

Totally agree with you there mate,
so we should be on the look out for a quality halfback to replace him,
6 & 7 is the engine room of any rugby league team
the thing is ,its just not a place where we seem to be fireing...

I am not calling lee hes been a good servant for the wire,
he cant really tell is children or grandchildren he was a rugby league great now can he.

Istill think is experiance will win us more games than it losses us,this season,but after that time to put him down i think....

I remember when Langer came over here he came as a package with Gee. Gee's job was to protect Langer and from what I read into that was not to protect him in scuffles but to stop people from running at him and targeting him as the smaller, weaker player.
Briers has had a few seasons of Gleeson and Westwood helping him on the right who are both strong in the tackle affording him a bit of protection.
I dont think Monaghan has had this luxury in that he defends 3 in rather than Briers who defends 2 in. The centres and second rowers he has worked with have what I would call "defended for themselves" rather than for the system.
Berrigan took advantage of monaghans tackling style late in the game back in Feb 2008 and other teams have isolated him ever since. He makes what my school teacher would call a "text book tackle" but in the modern game is as good as a clean break as you know that often he is left on the floor with numbers missing at marker and the defensive line all over the place.

I dont blame monaghan as there are other halfbacks in the league that would end up in a similar situation. All I ask is that the players around him aim up and dont allow that situation to develop.

From SEB's stats he made 41 tackles against the dragons. - That must be a record for a halfback and no wonder he was quiet when we had the ball.
(the tackle stats do look high but even if they were 25% out he still made over 30 tackles)