Well at least we are tight inside Penny. You can tell now we are far better without him in the team, dropping one player makes a big difference.

To be fair Cullen talked sence about some of our problems. It's a shame he never had the ability to correct any of then during his time with us.

thought it was interesting what he pointed out about monaghan, which in hindsight i'd noticed from early last year, again, something that needed correcting however it's sort of contradicts some of moaners comments from last year.

I always thought Cullen knew what the issues were but didn't have the answers to them, particularly in his last season. God help us because in terms of communication skills Cullen is like Shakespeare compared to Lowes.

cullen needs to make his mind up. It wasn't long ago he was telling us that warrington were good enough defensivly. Last night he's telling us warrington still have those defencsive problems.

I thought that too, did seem a bit contradictory.

You know inside Cull is laughing like a drain at what is happening to Wires under Lowes!

No. Cullen said our defence was good enough when we weren't turning cheap ball over and constantly putting pressure on ourselves to defend back to back sets.

As showed at Saints away this year. He is absolutely correct.

All the above is true. But, he also said we have still not corrected the defensive problems we've had for a while. That IS contradicting what you have said. He followed his statement with some replays of our defensive line not being quick enough, of not working together, the line not being straight and not winning collision.

Yes which stems from? Turning the ball over and giving penalties away. It's known we have some issues in defence but so do most teams.

We can easily beat any team if we keep our completion rate up and penalties down. (Easier said than done I know).

I believe there is a structural problem. We seem very exposed when the defence has to shift quickly from one direction to another. We seem to fall for the sucker punch every time with players being dragged one way by a dummy runner (esp in the outside 1/3rd of the pitch, outside the second row/hb defensive positions) only for ball to be switched to another runner going the opposite way. The defence fails to read this and respond and almost at the oppositions will an overlap is created as the runner has a centre and winger available, against our winger and centre.

That's just organistation. I agree. Are we currently worse than before because as Cullen mention we have changed our defesive pattern and structure?

You have just described the most basic game-plan of driving one side of the ruck to manipulate the opposition defence then get the link working to the opposite channel. Seen on most amateur junior pitches around the NW every Sunday morning.

If they can't defend against that then god help us.

Biggest defensive frustration for me is never moving up in a line at the play the ball - 10 easy yards for every play the ball, a recipe for disaster.

I dont doubt it Mark, obviously I am no expert but we seem vunerable to this and it concerns me.