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Quote: Dave T "I would like to see us look to sign the best youngsters if we are going to spend big.

These players can then form the backbone of the team for years to come. Paying big money for the likes of Lockyer is all or nothing. He will play for two years and leave, so the nvestment is limited in that you have to win something in those two years.

The likes of Ben Westwod have been a fantastic investment for Warrington, and perhaps we need to target the likes of Shenton, Westerman etc.'"


Exactly.

In fairness to the club this is probably what they were thinking when they signed Bridge and Bracek, but they haven't turned out to be what was hoped. It is a hard job because there is a limited amount of young English talent, and once the talent is on the books of one of Leeds/Saints/Bradford it is hard for a club like us to persuade them to let the player go. I can't see us getting a positive response if we enquired about signing Roby or Graham, or Sam Burgess.

That leaves signing targets outside the big clubs (eg Westerman, Shenton) or more likely to get the right players when they are still schoolboy age. I am sure the club is thinking on these lines hence the appointment of John Bastian. And to be fair they've put a lot into local junior development so the effort is going in.

The idea was probably to complement this long term strategy with 'loading from above' as Cullen put it, bringing in established internationals to immediately lift the standard of the club (and help us attract the best young players). Sadly this didn't work, some of the players weren't the right ones, and the limitations of the coach mitigated against us too.

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Quote: Ian [77] ""Can Moran afford Kaka?'"


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Quote: odemwingie "I dont beleive spalshing out on so many world class players is the answer in the modern game, every team needs a superstar to be one of the best, but IMO its much better to have an all round squad. We also dont realise what effect it must have on the dressing room when one player is on £50,000 more than everyone else.'"


Its all about getting the right world class player. Look at Saints with Lyon and Gidley. Wigan got Barrett, Leeds with Webb etc.

No matter what anyone says Benji Marshall would be a sensation over here. He would be the best Kiwi import in the Super League bar none.

Lockyer would still be the best player in the Super League, even at his age.

Hunt is better than any full back in Super League also including Webb, Wellens and Greenshields.

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Quote: Casual Des "Its all about getting the right world class player. Look at Saints with Lyon and Gidley. Wigan got Barrett, Leeds with Webb etc.

No matter what anyone says Benji Marshall would be a sensation over here. He would be the best Kiwi import in the Super League bar none.


Hunt is better than any full back in Super League also including Webb, Wellens and Greenshields.'"


No, no, no. I'd rather have Webb than Marshall or Hunt. Webb is what we want Bridge to be at full back.

If we are going for the real thing, we should go for Slater and/or Thurston.

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I'd be happy with pretty much UK recruitment really, maybe get a prop from the NRL, there's plenty in the Bulb/Rauhihi school, somebody who's tough & uncompromising and hard to shift backwards. You could probably throw 30 names on here. Assuming the others stay, ie, Hicks retained etc, I'd be cool with that. Or even one of those french lads, Remi Casty or someone like that, harness his aggression like.

Jamie Lyon being the exception to the rule, if there's even a whiff that this guy will be playing in the UK in 2010 we should pull out all the stops to ensure that it's with us.

I'd be pleased if our recruitment was something like, and this depends on injuries, extensions and such, and others clubs performing and being willing to sell etc, if Huddersfield go well, Wild obviously wouldn't want to leave.

Michael Shenton [Gleeson]
Rob Purdham [V.Anderson/PJ]
Steven Wild [See Above]
Richard Owen [Utility]
Louis McCarthy Scarsbrook / Andy Lynch / AN Other Prop [Rauhihi]

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Quote: JWP "I'd be happy with pretty much UK recruitment really, maybe get a prop from the NRL, there's plenty in the Bulb/Rauhihi school, somebody who's tough & uncompromising and hard to shift backwards. You could probably throw 30 names on here. Assuming the others stay, ie, Hicks retained etc, I'd be cool with that. Or even one of those french lads, Remi Casty or someone like that, harness his aggression like.

Jamie Lyon being the exception to the rule, if there's even a whiff that this guy will be playing in the UK in 2010 we should pull out all the stops to ensure that it's with us.

I'd be pleased if our recruitment was something like, and this depends on injuries, extensions and such, and others clubs performing and being willing to sell etc, if Huddersfield go well, Wild obviously wouldn't want to leave.

Michael Shenton [Gleeson]
Rob Purdham [V.Anderson/PJ]
Steven Wild [See Above]
Richard Owen [Utility]
Louis McCarthy Scarsbrook / Andy Lynch / AN Other Prop [Rauhihi]'"


ferriol.

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Quote: 'THE' Daryl Catpiss "ferriol.'"


Yeah, he's a big bugger. Providing the others stay fit, you could limit his gametime and really tell him to rip into the opposition. I just think he gets overused at times by them, I'd just like to see him in 10/15 min shifts just scatterihng people.

I like that Casty, I just think he's too aggresive sometimes, needs to learn hot to channel it, can't half put a hit on, same for that Fakir.

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Dan Carter; Sam Burgess; Kirk Yeoman.

First two fairly obvious. Yeoman can be the best centre in the competition if he got fit and back to the form of 2007. May just need a change of environment. Can easily fil the boots of Gleeson though, and we can't rely constantly on overseas players. We have to buy british at some point.

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Quote: Teddington Wire "Dan Carter; Sam Burgess; Kirk Yeoman.

First two fairly obvious. Yeoman can be the best centre in the competition if he got fit and back to the form of 2007. May just need a change of environment. Can easily fil the boots of Gleeson though, and we can't rely constantly on overseas players. We have to buy british at some point.'"


apart from yeamen is a left centre.

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if you can play left centre, you can play right

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Quote: Teddington Wire "if you can play left centre, you can play right'"


Not quite. The way they carry the ball, the hand-off and the direction of the step is very pertinent to the side on which they play.

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i think if you put yeaman into the right centre position, he'd cope admirably

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Quote: The All New Chester Wire "No, no, no. I'd rather have Webb than Marshall or Hunt. Webb is what we want Bridge to be at full back.

If we are going for the real thing, we should go for Slater and/or Thurston.'"


I rate Hunt better than Webb. He is younger as well.

Slater would be the ultimate signing, but he has the Queensland and Kangaroo jersey for the next decade and so does Thurston, so its unlikely they would ever give up that to sign for Wire.

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Quote: Casual Des "3 names should be on Moran's hitlist for 2010

Benji Marshall
Darren Lockyer
Karmichael Hunt

rlhttp://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/dragons-eye-off-trio/2009/01/15/1231608888607.htmlrl

With Gleeson's salary cap space freed up, possibly Briers leaving as well and other imports like Rauhihi, Hicks and Anderson off contract, we should target at least one of these big names for 2010. I hope Moran pulls out all the stops and offers them a package they cant turn down. A 300k a year deal, sponsored car and house in Stozza Heath should clinch it!

Hunt would be my first choice, he is younger and we need a full back desperately.

Either Marshall or Lockyer would do to replace Briers. Marshall has time on his side though and Lockyer would be a short term fix, but the most likely to be tempted over.

Thoughts?'"


All we need is a solid base of local players who'll work their socks off and a couple of very good play makers. We should be able to get the solid players from our Academys, the play makers can come from anywhere but I don't see why Australia needs to be our default setting.

Two years ago we had 75 teams playing in the North West Counties 16-18 league x 20 players per squad = 1500 players just in the North West not counting other areas and the younger age groups.. You can't tell me there aren't players in there who can't do the job. We do have a pool of talent.

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