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| Lads stick to the match or it's locked there's plenty to talk (civilly) about. BTW Divorce proceedings are underway now that Aunties charm has faded.
Quite enjoyed the first half and I tend to agree with posters thinking that we were guilty of trying too hard. I'd be sticking with Ashton Thewlis and Wrench yes mistakes were made but these are also our most enterprising players. I also agree with Just Browny (I think) about Wigan's kicking game being on the front foot you can't always simply blame the catcher.
Aunties take was that we bombed our chances whilst Wigan took theirs, some with an element of luck I think Wigan deserved their win but had the rub of the green to exacerbate the size of the defeat which wasn't totally a reflection of our effort.
I do recognise and accept that old Gary Player adage about the more I practice....and these results and second half collapsing happening every week is a collective responsibility players and coaches alike.
As far as support goes decent in the first half but the Cooper calling was poor as was the disappointingly obligatory beer throwing from the back .
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "Capitulation. 39 minutes we did ok, as soon as we conceded we were done.
We were lucky Harry Smith dropped the ball twice on our line, of it could have been 60.
Those blaming Ashton for playing the ball “too quick”, think about it a little longer. A guy can run 50 yards, get in the floor, up again and play it before anyone can get within arms reach… it is anyone but Ashtons fault.
Still, conceding on half time, softening up later on and giving up entirely… par for the course.
Got the subs wrong. Jason Clark got about 25 minutes. He’s not an impact player, so if you pick him, play him for the grunt and grind. Holmes can’t play middle, the first try shown that. Mikaele isn’t fit. The bright lights were Thewlis, Wrench, Ashton and Walker. Ashton aside, they have been the ones dropped week after week.
Williams, for me, is like watching Langer in 2000. Too good for those players around him, too fast for those fans to understand why.'"
Agree with loads of this. Ashton ptb, someone should have been there, perhaps Wardle or Currie on that flank.
J Clark should have been on early second half as we looked more vulnerable
The bright lights were good and looked exciting going forward apart from some costly individual mistakes. That's the risk.
Williams isn't excellent every game due to the lack of forward momentum, and therefore our players probably weren't used to utilising this. With more game time and a stronger set of forwards next year, it'll all come together.
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| I think. As I haven't seen any reports to the contrary. Atleast we ain't attacking our own fans at the moment (too many games where ive seen our own fans attacking each other dur to results and difference in opinions) and we are all on for what I can see. Mostly on the same side and understand whats hapoening to not be attacking each other.
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| Quote: Gazwire "You going to play Minichin instead?'"
Shudders.
I don't think I've seen a more useless article on the wing since Ronnie Kettlewell.
If he does play on Thursday, I'll be watching in true 1970'Doctor Who style..... behind the settee, with my fingers over my eyes.
And to think, we've shifted Lineham and Charnley aside, to accommodate him..... Double shudders
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| I think we showed a lot of guts and spirit tonight, especially in the first half. The last 20 was bitterly dissaponting, their first 2 tries came in the set immediately after we had bombed a very good try scoring opportunity. They were clinical and take nothing away from Wigan some of the tries they scored were quality and their kick pressure was excellent tonight. The difference in teams largely was confidence and the kicking games were also world's apart, we can't allow teams 10m every tackle it gives far too big an opportunity to cause us problems on their last play if they complete their sets.
Wigan thoroughly deserved the win, if we play like that for the rest of the season (but with an actual kicking game) we could pick up a few more vital wins. I really don't see what the coaches are doing to turn this around they aren't instilling belief or resilience that's for sure.
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| Interestingly enough, after reading the Facebook Warrington page, the most liked posts are the ones putting the blame on individual mistakes and not Powell. This is a change in tide. Past 2 weeks people have been more critical of Powell, but this has changed tonight. Lots of positives coming from there although obvious dissapointment over the 2nd half performance.
Most liked comments were more aligned to Uncle Ricos post, than the depressing cauldron of despair on here.
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| Quote: CW8 "I think we showed a lot of guts and spirit tonight, especially in the first half. The last 20 was bitterly dissaponting, their first 2 tries came in the set immediately after we had bombed a very good try scoring opportunity. They were clinical and take nothing away from Wigan some of the tries they scored were quality and their kick pressure was excellent tonight. The difference in teams largely was confidence and the kicking games were also world's apart, we can't allow teams 10m every tackle it gives far too big an opportunity to cause us problems on their last play if they complete their sets.
Wigan thoroughly deserved the win, if we play like that for the rest of the season (but with an actual kicking game) we could pick up a few more vital wins. I really don't see what the coaches are doing to turn this around they aren't instilling belief or resilience that's for sure.'"
Good post. I think you'll agree that there were definite signs of improvement, but it's hard to instil confidence when we've lost so many. I think tonight's game will be a turning point. I said that after the Catalans game, but I really think tonight will give us a lift.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Shudders.
I don't think I've seen a more useless article on the wing since Ronnie Kettlewell.
If he does play on Thursday, I'll be watching in true 1970'Doctor Who style..... behind the settee, with my fingers over my eyes.
And to think, we've shifted Lineham and Charnley aside, to accommodate him..... Double shudders'"
It's not the best of signings, I agree, and a downgrade on the two you mention. Perhaps he's a cheap squad filler?
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Shudders.
I don't think I've seen a more useless article on the wing since Ronnie Kettlewell.
If he does play on Thursday, I'll be watching in true 1970'Doctor Who style..... behind the settee, with my fingers over my eyes.
And to think, we've shifted Lineham and Charnley aside, to accommodate him..... Double shudders'"
Josh charnley you say. Is that the same josh charnley who is The 2nd highest try scorer for warrington wolves in 2022 with 10 tries. The same josh charnley who is apparently a bad apple dispite scoring 10 tries for us this season before being dropped
(Sarcasm really doesn't work on a forum does it)
(That's not a dig on the posters here. I agree with them and hope they don't take the sarcastic post as something against them which is not the case.)
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| Quote: Gazwire "We're beating Toulouse next week. And we'll have another win at least by the end of the season.
Next year, with Powell in charge, we will be top 5. Mark my post if you like.
Anyone disagree.'"
How much does the club pay you.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Good post. I think you'll agree that there were definite signs of improvement, but it's hard to instil confidence when we've lost so many. I think tonight's game will be a turning point. I said that after the Catalans game, but I really think tonight will give us a lift.'"
Signs of improvement. Perhaps after KP or was it KF had a word with the players last week.
Perhaps be could be the new coach?
Just a joke. No personal insults please...
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| Quote: karetaker "How much does the club pay you.'"
They pay me not to go to the games. That's my price.
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "Signs of improvement. Perhaps after KP or was it KF had a word with the players last week.
Perhaps be could be the new coach?
Just a joke. No personal insults please...'"
All good with you Wolfhall. We disagree with a lot of things but you're a good poster imo.
If people are friendly with me, even if we disagree, I'm friendly back.
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| Quote: Gazwire "Good post. I think you'll agree that there were definite signs of improvement, but it's hard to instil confidence when we've lost so many. I think tonight's game will be a turning point. I said that after the Catalans game, but I really think tonight will give us a lift.'"
I hope you're right, next week is absolutely massive for the club. We need the same again but more resilient in defence and far more respectful of field position, I'm sick of seeing a static defensive line from us this season, I called their try (third?) once field had broken our line, the left edge retreated whilst the middle didn't in effect we broke our own line, the scramble was good to close down one side but they scored going all the way back over again anyway after Holmes failed to wrap the ball tackling French. A little too much of the offload from wigan this evening for me, some of it was top quality enterprising Wigan play and unfortunately some of it slack defending.
I thought the knock on call against Ashton after french had pulled the ball out was really harsh, should have been our ball for a French knock on IMO, then they score. These are the breaks we aren't getting at all but we also need to be better at dealing with hardship the confidence is so fragile at the minute. We badly need an organising half, I like stef and Williams but neither of them are it. Our tactical kicking game is very 1 dimensional IMO, nowhere near enterprising enough.
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| Quote: CW8 "I hope you're right, next week is absolutely massive for the club. We need the same again but more resilient in defence and far more respectful of field position, I'm sick of seeing a static defensive line from us this season, I called their try (third?) once field had broken our line, the left edge retreated whilst the middle didn't in effect we broke our own line, the scramble was good to close down one side but they scored going all the way back over again anyway after Holmes failed to wrap the ball tackling French. A little too much of the offload from wigan this evening for me, some of it was top quality enterprising Wigan play and unfortunately some of it slack defending.
I thought the knock on call against Ashton after french had pulled the ball out was really harsh, should have been our ball for a French knock on IMO, then they score. These are the breaks we aren't getting at all but we also need to be better at dealing with hardship the confidence is so fragile at the minute. We badly need an organising half, I like stef and Williams but neither of them are it. Our tactical kicking game is very 1 dimensional IMO, nowhere near enterprising enough.'"
Really agree on all this. Someone like a Luke Gale who just directs things. Briers in his latter years did just that.
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