i'm actually quite surprised the club hasn't made more of this, or it being their theme for season ticket renewals, maybe they've got plans for next year but you'd be expecting them to push it a hell of a lot. maybe do some 20 year merch.

KFP is too busy desperately chasing Luke Littler around the world

its really not mate

I’m at the club every week. I see them and smell them at first hand.
I keep thinking about taking some bleach down with me.

When vs HJ & Wilderspool.
The HJ hadn’t floated my boat.
It looks and feels like a spam tin can.
Lining the inner tin shell would have put a closure on that…never done.
The roof structural beams are filthy brown, not white. The toilets are breeze block still with tin troughs, not an easy clean tile in sight.
The troughs are stained disgusting brown and sludge and stink foul.

Wilderspool was no challenger on the toilets, but it’s excuse was it’s age.
But I was watching Alex Murphy, Parry Gordon, John Bevan, Bob Eccles, Tommy Martyn, Dave Chisnall, Phil Blake, Andy Gregory, Mike Gregory, Les Boyd, Jonathan Davis….

So no, in the 20 years that followed watching such greats I mentioned and feeling the atmosphere throbbing from their veins to performance, I would say only Briers and Westwood have brought some of that to the HJ.
2011 was great rugby, and an opportunity to kick on and keep the momentum, when it looked like the club would finish the stadium to match the games…but no, the following seasons are on par with the lack attention to the troughs in the toilets.

Karl is maybe trying to recreate the retro 'Wilderspool experience' of rusted steel, medieval latrines and general progressive decay.

RD leaving the stadium to one side for a minute 2 points occur to me.
1) Nostalgia is very selective. Yes we had some fantastic players post ‘74 but for the most part we had poor teams serving up some absolute dross (Jiffy’s 1st year excepted).
2) Given your views I’m amazed you still go

CH.
Every now and again I have to clear the pipes to get up for bigging them up as the best team in the best stadium in the world.

I’m all crystal and pumped….bring it on.

I don't that often go much these days. I agree the stadium is looking tired especially on the outside. The first few years at the HJ were definately rocking. There was plenty of entertainment in those Nathan Wood years. I recall we would often up our game and play the likes of Wigan and Bradford off the park but then we would often lose the next week to Huddersfield or Wakefield. We never really made it like a fortress. But i suppose that is a Warrington team all over. Inconsistent. But they have been the best memories for me. It was the last time SL was exciting. Even during 2011-13. Sure we won most games and played excellent rugby but there isn't much that sticks out in my head. Especially as a great memory. Not sure why?

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When wire first moved to the HJ and the majority of the homes were on a Sunday.. unless we played the big 3 at the time it was Friday/Saturday nights.. the south stand was rocking.. now a days it’s just become place full of indentikit wearing yoofs..who show little or no interest in the game and are there to get drunk and act foolish.. I even meet a few people on this forum back in the day from standing in the same spot at the home games.. the match day experience for me now is turn up, watch and go. Am not one for the pre game and half time shenanigans..

I loved the Sunday games, gives you something to actually do. Stadium was always packed and the atmosphere was brilliant.
I haven't been to a match in ages now, atmosphere isn't as good anymore, and you never see the same faces and get to know anyone.
With Sky showing the first 15 rounds i won't be going to the HJ in quite some time.

The is the dilemma.

Home games. I live about 8 miles away but to go the game, get parking, walk up etc I am looking at a 3 hour door to door time cost and ~£70 for me, wife and child. Away games - You are looking at a minimum 5 hour time cost plus travel costs. Home or away you find yourself in the presence of urchins and pond life (amongst normal people).

Sky its 1.5 hours and done. Comfort of your own home and you see more detail too.

In the past I used to think that there is nothing like feeling the atmosphere at the game. I remember one evening game 2008 at Knowsley Road*, we took a big following. It was absolutely electric. Palpable nerves and excitement, goose bumps. 6 points up with 20 mins to go, was the hoodoo going to end? Same for the playoff win away at Saints more recently. But those games are few and far between.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4URMCaGBY8c