i laughed all the way through it... have you read frank skinners?

thats absolute class... if you like laughing all the way through a book read this one.



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I dont have a issue with either sport.I can easliy watch a game of football at any level,and enjoy it.Same goes for rugby and thats both codes.I enjoyed watching the tests game yesterday.What gets my back in football and rugby is some of the supporters.You can have decent conversation with some but each team will have some total tools.Who cant see anything but their own team.And that does go for Wire fans as well.The worst set of fans in football for me are Man Utd and in rugby it has to be Wigan.

i never understand this, a person could be 'a really big united fan', but they only go to the occasonal match but follow them on the television. If this same person said 'i'm a really big wires fan' and then went on to say they only went the occasional match they would be called an armchair supporter.

i dont like football though

I'm not "a really big United fan". In fact I hate them. However, as irony would have it I now find myself living less than half an hour's walk from their ground meaning, funnily enough, I do know a few "really big United fans" and they would most definitely regard the people you describe as armchair supporters and not "really big United fans" at all.

One mitigating circumstance mind, is that it's far easier to be priced out of supporting your team in football than it is in rugby. That doesn't mean the passion within you dries up just because your bank balance does though.

Football is progressively becoming unwatchable for me. I appreciate this is only my opinion, but its so pedantic you can't even fart near an opposing player without conceding a free kick. I tuned into the Liverpool Chelsea game yesterday and ended up switching over. There was a time when I'd happily sit down and watch two bigger teams for 90 minutes and enjoy it. However, the ref was either gaining some weird sexual pleasure from the mouth to whistle oral contact or the players were simply kidding him. I'll go with the latter to be fair.

Shame too. When I watch Prem League years from early 90's, it was a terrific sport to watch. I even managed (although I can't remember which channel) to stumble across as archive game from the 80's and these footballers were proper men. They didn't give a rat's , and unless the challenges were astonishingly wreckless, the whistle stayed silent.

I went to the game you mentioned yesterday and, with the exceptions of the Challenge Cup semi and final, I enjoyed it more than any Warrington match last season (Wigan away included).

As you say, it's just about opinions and personal preference.

My posts earlier in this thread about the perceived rivalry between the two sports reflect my views. They're both great games, but they're completely different games, so why there's needle between SOME (not all I know) fans of either towards the other is needless in my opinion.

Same for me, I used to love waking up to soccer am and then watching the game that followed it and the 4 hours of football on a sunday. But over the last couple of years the games have become so boring to watch( especially the games involving the "top 4"icon_wink.gif

How much you pay at Anfield nowadays?

£38-45

Jeez. Must be seats at the side with a good view?

Nope. For "Category A" games (United, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal and City) it's £43 in the Kop and £45 in every other stand - including the opposite end. There's also a £2.50 booking fee for buying online, which is by far the easiest way to get tickets, so in reality you pay up to £47.50. The cheapest tickets are £38 for "Category C" games in the Kop. As an aside you also need a £29 membership (which I didn't renew this summer in protest at the then owners, although I've started going again now they've gone) in order to buy tickets in the first place.

We're not the most expensive in the Premier League though. All London clubs charge more than that, and even in the North West, our away tickets at City in August were £48 so I turned down the offer of one.

Any RL fans with no interest in football might get an appreciation from this as to why [isome[/i people who support a football club don't actually go and watch them very often.

I grew up with football when I lived in Blackpool, still have a season ticket today. Got into rugby in my teens when I moved to Wigan and now have a season ticket for them as well.

I much prefer playing football rather than rugby, obviously because im crap at rugby and ok at football, but would rather watch any rugby game over a football game (with exception of b'pool).

I find the transfer aspect of football fantastic though, checking bbc sport every 5 minutes in the transfer window!

I use to be a season ticket holder with a Premier league club but have lost nearly any interest I have with football. All too predictable and completely focused on money.

I did enjoy watching the FC United match on ESPN last Friday, just for the passion of the fans.

Anyone remeber the footballer who had his hairdryer sent up north from West Ham by taxi?


When you see them rolling round "in pain" on the floor and diving etc, makes me wonder what examples they are setting to youngsters....... and I wonder why I still watch it.

The thing with football for me is how it has lost touch with the majority of the people who watch it and fund it, the working/middle classes. It's crass, distasteful and mercenary with the majority of the people that play (at top level) vile horrible self interested self important turds. But hey we are told how they go to childrens hospitals on their days off ? more carefully constructed PR than actual giving a cr*p. Used to love it, now the only thing i do is the fantasy football and check the scores on BBC football just for the banter at work (only because no one follows RL down here).

I hate it