In the cold light of day (and go easy on me!)......

Still a brilliant win.

Unbelievable defensive effort when down to 11, but can't believe the lack of organization by the Saints halves. Inept.

Saints injury list did affect them far more than ours.

Harrisons sending off - well for me there was no 'intent' but shoulder does make contact with the head. Interestingly did you notice that it was Harrison that had the HIA, not the Saints player? He carried on - which was a suprise. (There is a quote saying he was told to stay down. IF that was to influence the ref it's deplorable).

Ref - a mixed bag. I don't think it was all 'anti Wire'.

Sky mics in the camp - seen it before but I thought it gave a great insight (albeit in very 'sound bite' clips).

Burgess - loved the quotes and the whole positivity from him with the guys. His stature keeps growing - you can see how the guys want to play for him. They've seen him play. They know he was an icon when playing. His reputation keeps growing. He instills confidence in the players - particularly Dufty.

Currie - because he now gets his hands on the ball more we're seeing some of his best football. And ability to still play centre is a real bonus.

Outstanding win for you guys. That showed a mental toughness that I never expect to see from a Warrington team and I don’t think has been seen much before, which I thinks really adds credence to this iteration of the team being different. You’ve always had a talented team that can play good rugby, but now you have one that can knuckle down and face adversity and come out the other side with a win. Hard to beat any team playing with 12 for so long, even more so with a spell with 11, never mind a team like us that are usually so hard to break down in general.

As for us, thought we were very poor. I would say our defence was uncharacteristically poor, but your lot tore us apart in the cup too so it’s more likely that your style of rugby is just one that we struggle to contain. However, in attack we were absolutely abysmal. Poor discipline and a lack of organisation. It’s like we expected that we’d score just as a virtue of having more players and didn’t bother to try and come up with a plan to maximise that advantage, and when faced with the desperation and fight from your defence just didn’t know what to do.

Before this game I still thought that when it came to the business end of the season, I’d still back us to beat you in the play offs with our guys back. Now I don’t think like that, and I don’t really want to play you. Going to be hard to see past a Wigan v Wire final this year now.

That said, pity about all the embarrassing whinging about the ref earlier in this thread.

I do love a bit of carefully crafted irony.

Well composed and constructive post, unfortunately spoilt by the last sentence.

Yes it was a good post apart from that last little dig.

It's not for me to judge whether the anti ref posts are embarrassing or not (each to their own). I'd say that they were typical of in game comments from all teams supporters, when the tide could have turned based on the officiating.

We (the sport not just Wire) all yearn for consistency don't we? On the big stuff I'd say that Harrisons Red was as expected. I think it was accidental and not malicious BUT the other way around we'd be disappointed in a only a Yellow. Nicholson's was a Yellow but where was their guy's Yellow for similar?

The six agains....

....and clearly not very aware of Saints' recent record against us in knockout rugby....which is pitiful.

It’s just boring to read, and it’s not just wire fans it’s everywhere in RL. I’m sick of hearing about the refs being biased etc especially as it’s clearly nonsense. A lot of whinging about the red card which 1) wasn’t Kendall and 2) was the correct decision. The yellow was correct. The forward pass for our try was correct. The biggest incorrect decision was the Percival no try. Thought the only thing annoying about Kendall on Friday was his insistence on going to the screen for everything. Most of the big calls, he got right.

I’m talking play offs not knockout in general. Challenge cup is invariably different as it’s played at a different time of year which plays a part in both weather and the teams form peaking etc. in terms of play offs we beat you last year and obviously hadn’t lost since 2018 and I was fairly confident of us turning up in the big games again this year when we get bodies back as we are basically set up to play play off rugby week in week out. As I said, that’s no longer the case for me as I’m not as confident in our defence as I was. Before this year I’d say that’s the one thing we could always count on whether we were playing well or not, but it doesn’t look to have that steel any more

In terms of us getting a yellow… was that not when you scored a try? That would be why there wasn’t a yellow. The yellow was for the denial of a try scoring opportunity. Can’t really apply when a try has been scored

Your record against us in playoffs ain’t great mate.

Genuine question, is this this correct and does it always apply? Just because it wasn't a very professional, professional foul, does this exonerate the perpetrator?

It wasn,t a try scoring opportunity or a penalty try would have been awarded.

Well it really depends on how long you stretch the timeline doesn’t it? 2012-2018 you had the better of us. Not really relevant in 2024 though is it?

Well yes, the yellow is the punishment for stopping a try scoring opportunity. The ref said professional foul, but if you listen to the video ref he says the denial of a try scoring opportunity which is why the yellow was produced. And really, a professional foul is purposely fouling somebody to stop their promising attack. If the try is scored or the attack isn’t stopped then what’s the yellow for? If the try is scored then you’d be more likely to see an 8 point try than a yellow depending on the foul. It’s also why the refs say they can’t give somebody a yellow if a penalty try is awarded. It’s one or the other, because again the yellow is the punishment for stopping the try scoring opportunity and if the try is awarded then there’s nothing to punish with a yellow, as effectively advantage was played