Sadly, we have quite a few players that wouldn't get a bid on ebay.
Frightening really that a starting hooker was substituted so soon by the man who was waiting with his bike clips on for his journey to Saints.
I think sorting some of the basic mistakes out will steady the ship & maybe even get a couple of wins if the effort is maintained.

I don't get to go as much as i used to, i think after last night i'm quite thankful. One of the most depressing nights i've spent watching one of my sports teams. Totally abject and embarrassing.

I know it's been done to death on here. But it's astonishing how we've collapsed this year. For the first 8/9 games we were regularly between 6-8 out of 10 and obviously had that winning run. We looked a reasonably good team. If not outstanding. But we were heading in the right direction. Even if we over achieved at the start, our performances gave me enough to think we'd gotten over last year and we'd still pick up regular wins. I was expecting a top 4 finish. Now it's looking likely we'll be part of the bottom 4. It's only for the fact that Salford & Hull KR haven't been picking up any points in the league just lately too. But i can see either of those plus Hull FC and a resurgent Hudds overtaking us in the next month. We're like a baloon that has slowly been let down. I took the defeat to Wigan as a narrow close fought game but even then we went into it favourites. Then we got done but half a Saints team. These were two stand out games i was looking forward to but was left deflated after each one.
We'll probably never find out what the issue has been. Whether it was Mcguire, Powell, Fitzpatrick or bad apples etc.
People are saying we showed effort last night. I think that is clutching straws and maybe naive of many to think just because Powell has gone and Chambers was in charge we were somehow going to turn Catalans over. Only a handful of players showed real effort. The only time i saw a collective effort was when the ref gave incorrect play the ball to Philbin when he was clearly being held back by Cats players. That seemed to rile everybody up and in the next set with smashed them and they only made aboiut 20 metres. But realistically we should be showing that sort of defence from the start. Like Wigan and Saints do. After last night it kinda just feels like the season is over.

A lad behind me actually said ''I'd be happy with 12-24''.... don't really know what to make of that

Considering he arrived in the UK on Wednesday, only had the Thursday training session, and would still have been severely jet lagged, Mikaele looked the ideal foil to Vaughan.

He inspired the team when he came on as substitute.

Brett Hodgson used to play in Super League with his family staying in Aus. long term.

Maybe we could work a similar arrangement with Mikael, his current contract expires at the end of this season.

Like at beginning of the season I would have him and Vaughan starting. As for him staying I’d be surprised if that was not an option put to him to see out the season in the first place but clearly his family just want to stay close.

Be surprised if Mikaele was an option for 2024, but was very impressed with him under the circumstances. He is a great option running outside Vaughan and particularly Kasiano.

Be great if he could stay, but think we’ll have to plan without him.

Not sure how relevant this is, but the old army adage is that no plan survives the first bullet, so you need leaders among the troops who can think on their feet and adjust to developing situations.....I posted last year after sitting in the West that there was no talking behind the posts after an opposition try, and it was exactly the same last night (I was in the West again, right down pitch side): NOBODY going round the team and saying "try this" or "can you close x down faster". Just deer-in-the-headlights silence from the supposed leaders on the field who could/should have been getting a grip and giving guidance/orders/tips. Result: coach's plan goes out of the window after the first set and then it's every man for himself. Ratchford (in particular), Clark, Williams, and the other seniors are simply not doing their on-field battle management job....just my tuppence

No coincidence that the best Wire side I’ve seen in 40 odd years included Monaghan, Briers, Hodgson and Morley. On top of being great players they were excellent leaders and thinkers. We have looked rudderless on the field for quite some time.

I’d say since the day Briers retired.

I’d like to see Walker as captain personally, a local lad, seems to care and could be captain for years to come, I think he’d thrive with the responsibility. Sure I read somewhere part of Williams signing his new contract was that he’d be captain from next season, not sure how that plays out when a new coach comes in, but didn’t he captain England at the World Cup?

He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.

Quote: karetaker "He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.'" The four-strong group will consist of half-back George Williams, new recruit Josh McGuire and centres Stefan Ratchford and Peter Mata'utia. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... roup-2023/

Quote: karetaker "He is vocal in the dressing room but you don’t see it on the pitch, who were actually picked as the leaders. Ratchford Mata’utia was another don’t know who else. Was McGuire one.'" The four-strong group will consist of half-back George Williams, new recruit Josh McGuire and centres Stefan Ratchford and Peter Mata'utia. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/ne ... roup-2023/