We have deservedly not won either of the big two trophies for five years because we simply haven't been good enough.

When we knew Morley Carvell Cooper Hodgson Wood and MMonaghan were all leaving (not that long after King and Solomona left as well) our planning of the squad was abysmal. Then Briers retired as well.

We were left with a team that had some brilliant individuals but as a whole package we've been good but not great and at times just average. Deservedly finished 6th the year before and I was only expecting a little better last season because our props were powderpuff for half the game relying on 60 minutes from Hill and Sims and then just making do with whatever tripe or young lads came off the bench is not going to win any big trophies. Plus the lack of true centres at the club and a load of back who are Jack of all positions, masters of none.

I think people get a bit carried away because we have individuals of the calibre of Hill and IMO the best player in the league (maybe alongside Bateman) in Clark, and a little bit of the hangover from the excellent team we had from 2009-2012, people expect us to win things. But I don't think our whole package has good but not great of late. I think we did remarkably well, and it doesn't say a lot for the rest of the league, to reach both finals and top the league table last year.

This year we look much more likely to be a challenge for the two big trophies. Last Saturday I thought the balance of our FB and Wingers looked good and obviously we have a true ball playing half for once. But I still think we're lacking in some areas.

It's only 'time for change' if you have an idea who could be brought in who would be better. It's hard to think of anyone who is more likely to win an SL title for us. Wane works in the Wigan way of things, he won't go anywhere, and I wouldn't want to be playing his style anyway. Daryl Powell looks promising but has won sod all. Cunningham? See Wane. McDermott? - Done a lot at Leeds but their fans want shut, basing his past success on Sinfield, Peacock and the rest, not the coach. I suppose you'll tell me that we should look at Australia but, apart from McGuire's two seasons at the Pies, what Aussie coach has had much success here since John Monie in the 1990s?

Since Smith has taken over, two aussie coaches have won grand finals... there will be a lot of coaches out there that if you gave them the backing Smith has received would have gone one better in grand finals.

Looking at our squad at the start of last season did you honestly believe we were good enough to win the LLS and make both finals? Then subtract Mitchell Dodds...
The one complaint that I think can legitimately be laid is the lack of succession planning.

It doesn't matter... he has had the finances and the time. If we don't have good enough players it is down to the coach, and if the players aren't performing it is down to the coach.

Don't know why the board don't just give you the job Ron.

Stuart Pierce seems to be well into his rugby these days.

Its often said "everyone is entitled to an opinion", I think you are exempt.

Why? Because you don't like the message?

The coach is responsible for recruitment, retention, succession planning, performance and results.

Smith would be rightly praised if he had won the trophies so criticism when we do not is fair.

Tony Smith wants that grin slapping out with a wet kipper.

Time for Smith's post match interview bingo

I'm going for
"a bit sloppy at the play the ball"
"we can take some positives"

So he's happy with our spirit.

B0110CK5

Smith responsible for the assembling the slowest and least creative backline in a good long time. Lots to answer for end of story

for once I cant find any fault with one of your posts..........

I struggle to find worse recruitment from a man with the biggest wallet available to him...

As usual with these posts there is a distinct lack of suggested alternatives, just "time for a change".

The most likely change would be:

Steve McNamara
Daryl Powell
Paul Anderson
Richard Agar