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Quote: Peckerwood "Just to quash one theory out of extinction. Some people think that the fact the camera was shaking is a sign the whole thing was faked etc. I defy anyone to film a piece of footage hand held (like the cameraman was as we saw on Wednesday) and not make the video shake. Its almost impossible for anyone to hold a piece of equipment like that and there not be some sort of movement. If you don't believe me, look at when Bill Arthur is interviewing a coach or man of the match at the end of a Sky game and you will see the same thing occur.'"


So why use a hand held camera when there was no need to?

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Quote: Don Brennan "So why use a hand held camera when there was no need to?'"


because they followed him from the other room

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Quote: Don Brennan "So why use a hand held camera when there was no need to?'"


Quote: Don Brennan "because they followed him from the other room'"


Some people are so stupid :p

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Quote: healey08 "Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier i only read last 3 pages, did any1 see his E4 show on wednesday were he reads people minds??'"



i can read peoples minds....5 mins before the cup semi and final...i know people were thinking i hope we win today...easy

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Quote: Les Boyd Is God "i can read peoples minds....5 mins before the cup semi and final...i know people were thinking i hope we win today...easy'"


No not every1 wigan and saints were thinking about how they would of brought more fans icon_wink.gif

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Quote: RyanWire "Are you seriously telling me that you believe that 24 guesses averaged out are the way to predict a random number generation against odds of millions to one. '"


Not at all. I'm telling you I don't believe that any of the methods he revealed are true and I certainly don't believe the camera trickery one. I believe only Derren Brown and maybe a handful of others know the truth about how he did it. He's an extremely good showman and although he does reveal some of his methods I believe he keeps a lot of them very close to his chest. There'd be no surprise anymore if he revealed everything.

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You still dont believe its camera trickery - what are you sniffing?

of course its camera trickery

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Quote: Rugbychickâ„¢ " There'd be no surprise anymore if he revealed everything.'"


It would have been a big surprise had he revealed his numbers before the draw was made, though icon_wink.gif

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Quote: TheDoc "You still dont believe its camera trickery - what are you sniffing?

of course its camera trickery'"


You are you high on?

Of course it's not camera trickery icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Rugbychickâ„¢ "Not at all. I'm telling you I don't believe that any of the methods he revealed are true and I certainly don't believe the camera trickery one. I believe only Derren Brown and maybe a handful of others know the truth about how he did it. He's an extremely good showman and although he does reveal some of his methods I believe he keeps a lot of them very close to his chest. There'd be no surprise anymore if he revealed everything.'"


This is the situation

He is a master of misdirection and the show was full of them.

The flip of the coin was misdirection to guide people into thinking he was working with probability on the lottery.

The group work was misdirection and tried to make people think that he gained some advantage in working with so many to increase his chances

The statement that he couldnt reveal his prediction due to legalities is also misdirection. It is completly untrue and was done simply to hide the fact that he didnt have the numbers beforehand

The work with the group also was done to hint that they all picked the numbers but a closer look shows that none of them knew the numbers.


Now putting everything together anyone with an ounce of common sense would conclude that

1 - DB plus the group did not pick the lottery numbers. He got the group to pick some numbers which were probably discarded awaiting the real ones.

2) He achieved the correct numbers by either choosing them after the draw was made public (camera trickery / some other way) OR (less likely) rigging the draw beforehand. There are no alternatives, the numbers were not picked beforehand.

Had he genuinely predicted the numbers they could have been made public minutes before the draw (this is not illegal) AND to make it more convincing the raw data allegedly generated by the group could have been taken to the live show and calculated by the group 30 mins before so that the group also knew the numbers before hand without being able to gain an advantage from them.

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Quote: Rugbychickâ„¢ "You are you high on?

Of course it's not camera trickery
so - give us your theory then. Do you actually think he predicted them? icon_lol.gif

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Just a stunt to get more viewers for his new show.

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Quote: Rugbychickâ„¢ "You are you high on?

Of course it's not camera trickery
Oh dear!

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