Bit of a naive argument Lee, criticising those who attended the game.
We went because we wanted to watch the Wire and have a good weekend in the process.

If everyone displayed the attitude you are, then we would have had 60 fans there.

And people who attended will agree that even if the necessary precautions were taken, many of the incidents were beyond preventing. (such as being jumped by a gang.)

Not criticizing people going the game. I've said elsewhere I'd have love to have gone and hope I do.

My point was people shouldn't go to such a notorious place and then be surprised people get robbed. Specifically La Ramblas. There are plenty of nice places to have a drink. Then there's museums, art galleries,....

Oh you silly billy! Did you know that there are museums on the Ramblas? Together with important Gaudi works and also the Colon Monument being at the very start of the "notorious place" with the Plaza de Catalunya at the other end leading to Passeig de Gracia where I stayed. It's also the main route to the port and marina, and a vital hub on the metro system.

It is very difficult to avoid the central commercial part of Barcelona which stretches for almost 3/4 of a mile heading west/east to the sea. It's not like some out of the way seedy area.

Anyhow to test your rationale, I went to to see some museums, a picasso gallery, most of the famous gaudi buildings, the telerifico, and Sagrada Familia. I also walked down the Ramblas and went to an Irish pub. Should I have had it coming under your logic?

The Perpignan 42 + the rest of Willis Street?

Yes i did, but i bet nobody got robbed or attacked in a museum or art gallery. Or if so, a much smaller percentage.

You've had it coming a while. What you have done I presume, is built your own defence mechanism.

[i"Eh, Gringo. Yes, you. Orange man. Here. My friend." (In a stereotypical, Speedy Gonzalez type voice) [/i

"Insert standard Wires71 response. Full of big words, and mildly patronising."

[i" You wanna buy a watch " [/i

"No I do not. Lots of chatter about his watch, his Porsche 911. The Price of tickets in the North Stand, then about how Lee Briers didn't appreciate his contribution to the Wolfs when he sponsored a game a decade ago."

[i"Screw theeeees. This guy is Kkrazy. Even krazier than he looked on Teeveeeeee. 'Eee, no gonna invest is us Sergio, c'mon." [/i

Wires 71 shouting down Las Ramblas "Come back. Come back. I've not even told you about Skents yet. He's smalltime. SMALLTIME."

that is hilarious

any way in summary Barcelona, a crime riddled ces pit, nice buildings, good art, museums, beutiful weather, bit pricey, nice locals, high unemployment, nice stadium,irish bar, alcohol free beer at match,good win & well deserved holiday!

did i have a good time...yes

would i go again... yes

have i been nicer places...yes

have i been worse....yes,widnes for example

did i spend a lot....yes

Very good. You have me down to a tee.

Oh. My. God.

Ian77 had Funniest Post Of Today with his 'he knows the rules' on t'other thread, but mon Dieu....you've wee-wee'd all over it.

There's a man in Culcheth with a wry smile right about now, I'd wager?

Wires 71 & JWP would make a great comedy duo like a Cannon & ball

Rock On Wires 71

Steady Tiger, I think they're a bit more like Mike and Bernie Winters at the mo.

Bert and Ernie

All bloody Eastern Europeans.

Heard many reports about Barca. Shame that so many have been done over.

Get Wigan over there next year!