he`s GONE(all gleeson discussion in here)

Quote: JWP "There's people on this thread that i'll listen all day long too, but they've got me today, just not getting it.

Why is this not a good deal ?

There's many factors,

Financially we get £100k for a bloke that was obviously leaving for the NRL at the end of the year, so effectively on a free.We've never been thrifty as a club, so I don't doubt he'll be given the funds to re-invest.

Smith has set down a marker, for donkeys years we've talked about players treating our club as a doss house, 'player power' and that rubbish, we've cried out for a bloke to come in and overhaul this, we've got it and now folk are getting back on the fence. Gleeson obviously told Smith of his intentions/feelings what you will, Smith has made it happen.

We paid £200k, we got back £100k. So it's what £25k a season if you look at it like that, most teams pay money and get zilch return, hoe much did Leeds get back for Ellis ? We paid £50k for Vinnie, and he's done ten times less than Gleeson ever did. I think we've brokered a good deal, to recoup half of what we paid.

I've loved watching him, I think he's class, but I think he's heartless too. I've never felt he had any affiliation with our club, he didn't attend functions and stuff, he's just 'done his job' in his eyes, no more no less. So in the same way, i'm not too bothered that he's going.

If we have to take a step back to go forwards then so be it, I mean that. We're not obviously that great a team, we're 12th, so having flair obviously doesn't guarantee success. I think Smith is going to try and get 17 hard working, team orientated people on a pitch every week, and when the work ethic, and levels of cconcentration are as they should be, then he'll start to look at adding the nice touches, the flair if you will, but he won't substitute flair for effort & commitment, so unless your going to put that in, you won't play, and he obviously feels we either have the players to put this in now, or we can get them.

PJ said in his interview that folk drop balls in training and stuff, Gleeson strikes you as a bloke that wouldn't fancy training too hard every day. If we're looking for 24/7 proffessionals, he doesn't strike you as one.'"

Totally agree. Tony Smith will not have taken this step lightly and will have his reasons. I trust TS implicity to do the right thing for Warrington and, I suspect, this is just the first step in a wider strategy in making additions to the squad.

I wish Gleeson well with Wigan and certainly wont be deriding him when he's playing for an opposing side.