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Looks overweight and underwhelming.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Looks overweight and underwhelming.'"


Na hes always had a barrel physique in his upper body looks too big for his legs is he as trim as he was no is he fat or overweight no. It amazes me how ppl go on about him being one of the best all time players but dont know what he looked like when he was playing !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote: rubber duckie "Looks overweight and underwhelming.'"


I remember a few people saying that, on a different forum a few years ago, about Chris Hicks, and he didn't turn out too bad !

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He does look 6lb too heavy but he looked more comfortable at FB. He started talking too, prior at centre he was like the last kid pick who no one will pass too.

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I thought for a first game in what, 2 years, he did enough. No amount of training would have seen him as good as he can be in his first game but over the the next few runouts we will see him get better. He showed some good leadership qualities today with some chatting.

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Quote: The Railwayman "I thought for a first game in what, 2 years, he did enough. No amount of training would have seen him as good as he can be in his first game but over the the next few runouts we will see him get better. He showed some good leadership qualities today with some chatting.'"


Yeah I think you have to play him to get him up to speed. He will contribute just enough over the next few games (making the odd mistake of course) and the move to full back might actually bring a better reaction out of him as he'll be more involved and get more responsibility.

The only other option is to send him to Widnes for a week or two, but I heard Amnesty International got involved and put a stop to that.

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There's an irony here, we've been talking this last week about moving ratch on from fb, and who ou5 of ashton and Thewlis to go with.


And a week and an injury later, we've bypassed Thewlis and opting for inglis

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "There's an irony here, we've been talking this last week about moving ratch on from fb, and who ou5 of ashton and Thewlis to go with.


And a week and an injury later, we've bypassed Thewlis and opting for inglis'"


With respect. If you have Greg Inglis, you play Greg Inglis. Thewlis is a talent, and a better all round fullback than Ashton in my opinion, but his project now is to watch, listen and learn.

If we’re going to win anything, we need Inglis, Widdop, Clark, Cooper and King fit and firing.

My concern is that Price doesn’t know “what footy team he has” at all. He buys a left centre (assuming by the squad numbers and today’s selection), yet put King there to start a relationship with Currie and Widdop, only to move him on to the right after weeks.

He also picks a ‘pivot’ fullback as a part of that plan A, but has since decided to change that plan. And the Clark on the bench plan from minute 1 of the season must have been plan A. All this has fell by the wayside, then the messing around with Charnley moving sides, there is no stability or structure.

He either needs a proper plan, pick the players in positions to suit that plan and carry it out and build some combinations or to go completely the other way embrace the chaos, let these players just play.

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We ain't doing too bad given the chaos. Not lost since day 1. Held super duper Hull to a draw. Beat Catalans over there. Scored 50 today.

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Also for such a shoddy attack we have scored the most points

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Quote: rubber duckie "Looks overweight and underwhelming.'"


I must of imagined it when I read that Inglis was fit, but had to wait for Hull KR before making his an appearance, as it was all about the winning debut and the exposure.

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Quote: Douglas Black "We ain't doing too bad given the chaos. Not lost since day 1. Held super duper Hull to a draw. Beat Catalans over there. Scored 50 today.'"

You are Paul Youane and I claim my fiver.

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I don't think the key performance indicator is not losing since round one, and neither do I think it's the amount of points we've scored. We are doing [iokay[/i, and i doubt anyone really thinks we are that bad.

The important thing is: Do we look like a team that have improved over the last three seasons and do we think we have a chance of winning the Grand Final? For me, the answer is no. Beating Hull KR by 30ish points is all well and good, but nothing I saw yesterday leads me to believe we're going to do anything other than be a top six team that falls short in the playoffs. That is not a good return on the investment we've made.

But that's just me and I'm hard to please.


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On the Thewlis issue I want him to play, but I also agree we need Inglis getting game time. Whether Inglis should be at centre or FB I'm not sure. I like the idea of him getting involved more because I think he'll be spurred on by the challenge. But then Thewlis I feel can really kick on if he gets a run.

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Inglis is on record as saying he didn't expect or wish to return to FB (" those days are gone"icon_wink.gif, so unless Price insists I guess he will remain at centre. I thought he did OK, better than I was expecting to be honest, and he can only improve with match time. So if Ashton is injured I suppose next weeks options are either Ratchford or Thewliss at FB, and that in turn depends on whether Price brings back Austin. Personally I would like to see Thewliss back, and I am so fed up with Austin I don't really care if he plays for us again.

Lineham's return will presumably leave Mamo without a birth. He has done very well for us over the past few games, but I still see him as a utility back for injury cover, albeit he has taken on the role of a super sub and exploited his speed and energy.

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