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Briers and Lineham have both hinted at problems at the club that stem off the pitch.
I miss Andy Gatcliffe.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Briers and Lineham have both hinted at problems at the club that stem off the pitch.
I miss Andy Gatcliffe.'"


Please elaborate

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Personally I would have liked us to take a full on drubbing today, which may have led to us bottoming out and started the climb back up.

It was a bad defeat and poor performance, but not quite landmark defeat'"

So you wanted us to take a drubbing jeez what a fan you are...your well within your rights to give this lot a right panning at full time..do you want us to get slaughtered come kick off time next week,

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Personally I would have liked us to take a full on drubbing today, which may have led to us bottoming out and started the climb back up.

It was a bad defeat and poor performance, but not quite landmark defeat'"



Have you been hacked Cat?

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Quote: sir adrian morley "So you wanted us to take a drubbing jeez what a fan you are...your well within your rights to give this lot a right panning at full time..do you want us to get slaughtered come kick off time next week,'"

OK I didnt WANT us to get a drubbing, obviously I wanted us to win.

But when the game started slipping away from us, I did think it would become a drubbing, much like the oft remembered defeat at quins in smiths early days.

I'd much rather have a big bang of a result to get coach/management's attention that this isn't working, than continuing with 'death by a thousand sabrecuts'

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "I'd much rather have a big bang of a result to get coach/management's attention that this isn't working, than continuing with 'death by a thousand sabrecuts''"


Therein lies the problem. Regardless of the result and scoreline yesterday, next week or at anytime in the season, the management won't do a thing because they are as weak and insipid as the players.

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Powell is obviously a very competitive man and he was clearly gutted by that performance.

Middleton and Moran are very succesful businessmen who wouldn't be as rich as they are without being ruthless.

I don't know why we can't translate that into success on the pitch. Well, not the success we all crave.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "OK I didnt WANT us to get a drubbing, obviously I wanted us to win.

But when the game started slipping away from us, I did think it would become a drubbing, much like the oft remembered defeat at quins in smiths early days.

I'd much rather have a big bang of a result to get coach/management's attention that this isn't working, than continuing with 'death by a thousand sabrecuts''"

Fair point.was tongue in cheek my comment..next week's game will be more of the same I'm afraid but in front of a much smaller audience then the penny may just start to drop with the management

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Quote: sir adrian morley "Fair point.was tongue in cheek my comment..next week's game will be more of the same I'm afraid but in front of a much smaller audience then the penny may just start to drop with the management'"


This will be Fitzpatrick’s true test, how does he pick the club up from this, and gets money from our pockets to watch the same show, on the same stage again on Saturday?

I get what FMC is saying regarding the drubbing, as a protest.
In similar terms, I feel not a single fan should bother to watch vs Wakey as a protest.
Will they get us then?

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Quote: Douglas Black "His interview at the end of the match was quite good given the circumstances.'"


Just read his quotes in the Warrington Guardian under the headline "Fans within their rights to boo". I am impressed with his style having been sick of hearing his excuses when he was Cas coach. A refreshing honesty.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Fair point.was tongue in cheek my comment..next week's game will be more of the same I'm afraid but in front of a much smaller audience then the penny may just start to drop with the management'"


This will be Fitzpatrick’s true test, how does he pick the club up from this, and gets money from our pockets to watch the same show, on the same stage again on Saturday?

I get what FMC is saying regarding the drubbing, as a protest.
In similar terms, I feel not a single fan should bother to watch vs Wakey as a protest.
Will they get us then?

Packs win games'"


I should think the answer to Fitzpatrick's efforts will be Wizzy Rascal stunt driving on the pitch while Jedward perform their greatest hit. On the pitch maybe going back to basic rugby would help & the team all seeming to be on the same page.

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Quote: ninearches "I should think the answer to Fitzpatrick's efforts will be Wizzy Rascal stunt driving on the pitch while Jedward perform their greatest hit. On the pitch maybe going back to basic rugby would help & the team all seeming to be on the same page.'"

That isn’t going to get the fan’s flocking back this Saturday though.
So my question again, is how does KF get the fans back in on Saturday?

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Quote: rubber duckie "That isn’t going to get the fan’s flocking back this Saturday though.
So my question again, is how does KF get the fans back in on Saturday?'"

His resignation would help.

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Quote: rubber duckie "That isn’t going to get the fan’s flocking back this Saturday though.
So my question again, is how does KF get the fans back in on Saturday?'"


Wow , KF isn’t to blame at all here . The problem is far deeper. It ultimately stems from the culture of a club that for the last 10 years has had an arrogance and a sense of self importance.

It may sound bizzare having made that observation but I’m as big of a fan of this club than anyone. However , I am realistic and Moran , Middleton and the rest of this board have given everything they could and more. We have failed but not for the want of trying Be careful what you wish for !!

The vanity project of spending big money has to stop unless the player adds true value. It has no effect and it builds a resentment . We are all human it has to . How would you feel earning probably £200k a year less than someone who doesn’t give a and performs so badly ( Widdop)

Take stock build a club and a culture and be patient . Sadly we are miles of that as it stands because of our arrogance.

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Quote: rubber duckie "That isn’t going to get the fan’s flocking back this Saturday though.
So my question again, is how does KF get the fans back in on Saturday?'"


Wow , KF isn’t to blame at all here . The problem is far deeper. It ultimately stems from the culture of a club that for the last 10 years has had an arrogance and a sense of self importance.

It may sound bizzare having made that observation but I’m as big of a fan of this club than anyone. However , I am realistic and Moran , Middleton and the rest of this board have given everything they could and more. We have failed but not for the want of trying Be careful what you wish for !!

The vanity project of spending big money has to stop unless the player adds true value. It has no effect and it builds a resentment . We are all human it has to . How would you feel earning probably £200k a year less than someone who doesn’t give a and performs so badly ( Widdop)

Take stock build a club and a culture and be patient . Sadly we are miles of that as it stands because of our arrogance.

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