Agree with that, nobody threw more than Ratchford on Friday night IMO. In fact on one of them I even thought the recipient was already ahead of Ratchford when he threw the ball, so technically offside never mind a forward pass.

I would have been very disappointed if Houghton's pass had been pulled but would have accepted it.

If that's the case, how can these statements;




have any credibility?

The credibility they carry is that the debate posted was a player vs player comparison of the 2 sides on Friday, which from a fans point of view will always be biased towards your own team. My comment around national selection is one off a view of the quality in your squad from a neutral standpoint. One that should be picked on form however rarely is!!!!!!!!

I agree about the bias of the player comparison earlier in the thread, but I still think there's a flaw in your argument about international selection. It isn't as neutral a standpoint as you suggest. As you say, it is rarely about form, so has it's own bias inherent in the selection policy right there. Straight away then it's not necessarily a case of picking one player over another simply because he's better. There is also a tendency to pick more from certain clubs IMO. I'd honestly never use England selection in rugby league as a tool to measure one player against another.

Nor do I usually as its made up of old faces from dominant teams. However the post I was disagreeing with on Friday was a player vs player analysis between hull and wire which was a unique assessment of a team on a good run ie hull vs ourselves who are not. My offering of int selection was to bring them back down to earth
I could have used other means ie dream team, man of steel or just said he was talking rubbish!!!!

I'd have plumped for the latter!

On a serious note though, there are a few in your team currently looking shadows of their former selves. Be interesting to see whether it pans out as blips in form or time catching up with them.

Yeah, it's been a question mark over your squad the last couple of years; is this one year too far for some? You just have to hope Smith gets it right. Could be interesting at the end of this season.

3 defeats on the bounce.
Is Hull's season unravelling as quick as it gained momentum?

Hull's season never really had any momentum, journalist and fans went ott just because they beat us and proclaimed the second coming, then they've flattered to deceive badly on sky and lost 3 in a row.


Take a step back, hull don't look to be playing any differently than they have the past 5 years

What is going on with the video refs? Ellis clearly lost the ball forward in the build up to the try, it only ended up going backwards because it hit the Wakey player!

That's what we thought at the match. Just glad it didn't affect the final result!

Well I'm not normally one for bringing up the past to prove a point, but this is all starting to look a bit prophetic now.

Last year I may have gotten carried away saying Hull had a better team (although we both reached a final and both won feck all), but a lot of what I said about your team is turning out to be very true, yet I was laughed at for it.

I'll say it again, no pace, no bite in the forwards. The only thing that's changed is that your best player isn't on the treatment table every other week now, he has retired. Like I said, Warrington are on the decline, Hull, whilst still nowhere near where we want to be, are on the rise.

All that said though I wouldn't just give up and say the glory days are over like I've seen mentioned in other threads, you still have some really good players to build a team around, a couple of years of strong recruitment will see you right at the top again. I just think Smith was a little naive to think the ageing side could keep pushing on without recruiting some young blood.

PS, to the guy who laughed at my suggestion that Briscoe is better than Monaghan. Now that Briscoe is in a good attacking side we are all seeing that Joel isn't in his league.

The only thing that is worse than seeing my team underperform, is coming on here to see past threads being dragged up with people from other clubs standing on the rooftops shouting "LOOK LOOK, LOOK AT ME, I WAS RIGHT, I WAS RIGHT, I WANT ATTENTION. NER NER". It's extremely sad and pathetic.

Presumably these are what social workers refer to as 'low esteem individuals' that desperately seek attention on boards like this. Still, at least we are providing a social need, a bit like charity work really.