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| I'm at that 'can't be bothered' stage as are plenty of those I know. Just been a horrible experience watching Warrington over the last 5-8 seasons - with the exception of last season. I was utterly gutted with how 2024 ended as I just knew that would be our last chance for a long time to win the big one - I knew our recruitment was going to be woeful and I was proven right. I'll go to watch the Academy and Reserves for the rest of the season (they are some real attacking moves of note) and go from there. I expect Burgess to still be in charge next season - Williams will have gone and we'll have signed some over-hyped pudding to replace him.
Our club has everything going for it to be a huge success bar one thing - and that's that those who run the club, when it comes to RL, are not serious people.
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| matt_wire:Lord Tony Smith:lefty goldblatt:
Just looked at his coaching record In nearly 2 decades of coaching, he won one pot......against a poor Warrington side (shock) Plenty of Heroic failures, and sacked from his last job.
HE'S PERFECT FOR US.
When does he start.
In the last four years he's also got to two Grand Finals with a pretty average Catalans team and won a LLS. Challenge Cup finals, grand final loses and the odd LLS, nothing we haven't done before. We need a consistent, proven, winner. Like who? The board won't appoint Wane.
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| karetaker:Wires71:The Speculator:
I think that when we appoint our next head coach - whenever that might be - our directors first need to acknowledge the sheer scale of the task, and understand the experience and strength of character required to tackle it. It's a job that breaks coaches. Instead of pretending that we are still a big player in Super League, the directors need to be completely open and honest about the inherent problems facing this club, and appoint a coach who can put forward a convincing, detailed strategy for meeting those challenges. Stop being starstruck by big names, stop looking for quick fixes, stop thinking that social media clicks are more important than turnstile clicks. I usually try to remain level-headed and optimistic about Wire, but it is pretty difficult to be that way at the moment. I am genuinely worried about the future of the club, because I sense we are approaching a tipping point where a lot of long-time fans have just about had enough and are drifting away in disillusionment. I'm not talking about the usual "that's it, I've had it with Wire" that comes in the heat of the moment after most bad defeats. I am referring to that sad realisation, when game day comes around, that you'd probably rather do something else with your time than watch Wire and be let down again. That's when it gets serious. I think there was a cautious sense of optimism when Burgess took over, but here we are again, down among the deadbeats and with uncertainty and rumours abounding. As for easyWire's question, I would say that McNamara is a coach of the right calibre and experience, so I wouldn't be upset if he was 'next man up', as Burgess used to say. But whoever it is, we really need to get the appointment right this time. The consequences of botching it again don't bear thinking about.
Good post. The trouble is the board have gone on record to say they now demand more involvement in RL matters following Powell's exit. I reckon this is half the problem, together with some key positions in the club being filled by people who are clearly out of their depth. In hindsight, we should have probably backed Powell to the hilt instead of turning on him. He was up against this dysfunctional board and sulking players. He didn't help himself mind. The problem is the sulking players you refer to had the ear of the board. Yep cosy chats in the boozers of Stockton Heath with Mr Lomax saying how cruel and mean Powell was being stopping them running their own businesses and being excused from training. A board that is far too close to the players to be objective.
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| Not sure that McNamara could manage the change required at Wire.
He would provide the longevity of service required to do the job, which most coaches from Down Under don`t (If they don`t get sacked first), but since Tony Smith our 1st team coaches have only had a relatively short duration.
An emphasis needs to be for the new coach to promote players from our junior ranks and not fill the team squad with 2nd rate exNRL players.
To give Burgess his due he has tried to play our Academy players where possible but has failed miserably with his signings from overseas.
The Board AND fans need to be realistic, but a good starting point would be to get rid of the current imposter who is employed as our CEO.
The new CEO needs to be a buffer between the club`s owners and the players like Gary Hetherington was at Leeds. The players should have no direct contact with SJM Middleton or Lomax.
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| Lord Tony Smith:lefty goldblatt:
Just looked at his coaching record In nearly 2 decades of coaching, he won one pot......against a poor Warrington side (shock) Plenty of Heroic failures, and sacked from his last job.
HE'S PERFECT FOR US.
When does he start.
In the last four years he's also got to two Grand Finals with a pretty average Catalans team and won a LLS. So he's still won nothing of note (everyone sneers at LLS winners unless it's followed by a GF win) in the last 4 years. Ill ay it AGAIN. ONE POT IN NEARLY 2 DECADES. Show me a runner up, and I'll show you a loser. Paint his name on his car park space, now. Why do the British have an obsession with plucky losers? Frank Bruno, Nigel Mansell (until they finally won their respective titles).. Here's one for you. Wikipedia the top 3 for each year for Sports Personaliy of the Year, for the last 40odd years, and it's littered with nearly men. Tim Henman, Rusedski, Fatima Whitbread, the list is endless
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| I’d take Fatima Whitbread as prop thanks
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| Every person considered a winner has a personality/behavioral trait and the British are steeped in history with the straight and honest batter, we just don't take to cocky roguish types. Give me an out and out winner every time. To get us on a winner status pay Wane a kings ransome and get uncle Eamon as CEO. Its wild i know, I'd love to see the difference 
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| lefty goldblatt:Lord Tony Smith:lefty goldblatt:
Just looked at his coaching record In nearly 2 decades of coaching, he won one pot......against a poor Warrington side (shock) Plenty of Heroic failures, and sacked from his last job.
HE'S PERFECT FOR US.
When does he start.
In the last four years he's also got to two Grand Finals with a pretty average Catalans team and won a LLS. So he's still won nothing of note (everyone sneers at LLS winners unless it's followed by a GF win) in the last 4 years. Ill ay it AGAIN. ONE POT IN NEARLY 2 DECADES. Show me a runner up, and I'll show you a loser. Paint his name on his car park space, now. Why do the British have an obsession with plucky losers? Frank Bruno, Nigel Mansell (until they finally won their respective titles).. Here's one for you. Wikipedia the top 3 for each year for Sports Personaliy of the Year, for the last 40odd years, and it's littered with nearly men. Tim Henman, Rusedski, Fatima Whitbread, the list is endless Woah. Calm down flower. Where did I say that I wanted him? I merely pointed out that he had won more than a CC like you had suggested.
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| I managed to catch a recent interview with Steve Mcnamara and it is only whilst listening to it that I fully appreciated the challenges that Catalan face. In particular with travel time to the UK every couple of weeks and the amount of time that the coach and the team loses in terms of prep before and recovery after a game. So I do think that he did a pretty decent job at Catalan. I think he would do a decent job. I know that we shouldn't always go back to the ex player well but Michael Monaghan is getting closer to the next step. He was in charge of pathways / junior development at Manly then moved to Newcastle to look after the NSW cup team then on to assistant at the Titans. The next step is SL before heading back down under. I saw him in action off the field once dealing with a confrontation with some pretty angry fans and he takes no messing and stands up when all the other players were keeping their heads down. I also know he had a run in with Briers when he wasn't pulling his weight so he is not frightened to tell it like it is. Maybe we need a bit of honesty.
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| Monaghan (Michael) was also famous for being in a huge grump after any loss due to actually giving a toss. Like Pitt in Moneyball he hated losing more than he enjoyed winning - we could do with some of that attitude.Don’t think you’d get a shrug of the shoulders and a ‘we were tired’ nonsense after a pitiful defeat from M Monaghan.
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Monaghan (Michael) was also famous for being in a huge grump after any loss due to actually giving a toss. Like Pitt in Moneyball he hated losing more than he enjoyed winning - we could do with some of that attitude.Don’t think you’d get a shrug of the shoulders and a ‘we were tired’ nonsense after a pitiful defeat from M Monaghan.
Michael Monaghan even did a WG interview where he talks about hating losing. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/11444702.michael-monaghan-i-cant-stand-losing/
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Monaghan (Michael) was also famous for being in a huge grump after any loss due to actually giving a toss. Like Pitt in Moneyball he hated losing more than he enjoyed winning - we could do with some of that attitude.Don’t think you’d get a shrug of the shoulders and a ‘we were tired’ nonsense after a pitiful defeat from M Monaghan.
Michael Monaghan even did a WG interview where he talks about hating losing. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/11444702.michael-monaghan-i-cant-stand-losing/
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| You need to follow the lead of leeds and Hull who have both appointed experienced NRL coaches but also new DOR's who actually know what they're doing recruitment wise, and then let them get on with their jobs with no interference - easy at Hull where the owner is the father in law of the DOR (although now CEO but still doing the DOR job).
No surprise both clubs are on an upward trajectory.
Appointing burgess was always going to be a big gamble, which rarely pay off
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