The Hurrell tackle on Johnstone looked like a shoulder charge to me.

There was no contact by Hurrell using his arms, and he just barged Tom Johnstone over the touch-line with his shoulder.

That would make it a penalty try.

Yes.

I only remember seeing it from behind, where it looked like a shoulder charge, but then seeing Hurrell's arms out in front of him. I assume he was trying to target Johnstone's arm to knock the ball out ( a la Goodwin on Makinson in the Cup Final 2019).

Until we beat them they are better than us simple as.

Not afraid of them it will be a good test for us. However, our defence could be better! - bring them on!

Which you can do. Nothing wrong with that. He's just denied him the space and forced him out. You'll only get penalised for that if you come in perpendicular to the player, like a fullback coming across and using the shoulder. A player running parrallel won't be, it happens a lot.

I'm not even sure what the Delaney incident was you wanted him banned for, but doesn't look like he's been charged with anything. There wasn't anything in our game worth banning, bar Sims' ridiculous dive and his reckless head clash with Tom Johnstone.

I never mentioned Delaney.

Sorry, not replying to you specifially there. There were a few mentions of him being banned earlier in the thread.

But I thought your whole thesis was based on Saints players didn’t have to do anything wrong to get banned? The MRP could have banned Hurrell if they were as biased as you claim.

The MRP treated Saints more harshly than other clubs for a long time after the Knowles appeal, and still are, because we embarrassed them and showed them up for the incompetent fools they are. I'm not suggesting this is a deliberate, coordinated move, I think they just don't like us. With the RFL's ridiculous policy of not rotating the panel to ensure personal issues and clear conflicts of interests don't cloud it, my theory is they don't like Saints and probably Mike Rush on a personal level.

They can't just make bans up however as they would just be thrown out on appeal as it's looked at by different people.

I’m afraid I’m going to have to tell you something your friend(s) should have a long time ago.
You are deluded, there is and never has been a conspiracy against Saints.

I've just said it's not a conspiracy if you cared to actually read what I wrote.

i’ve seen your posts on Redvee (before it went off air). In any event the content of your posts gives lie to your assertion that it isn’t a conspiracy.

Bascially, St Helens and all those odious associated supporters scream injustice or conspiracy at any decision they do not like. Akin to a toddler being told no.