I'd hope Mr Moran acknowledges that his businesses are only viable as long as customers are happy. There are other ticket agencies than SJM, there are other sports clubs than us crying out for fans, sponsorship and patrons. Not every fan or organisation will continue to hand over money ad nauseum out of loyalty.

I'd like us to be higher than 5th next season, I think we will get higher than 5th. But at the same time, we should hold some realism and respect to the other competing sides.

To just demand that we are entitled to be higher than 5th is just pathetic, given the state of the other sides. I'm still waiting for just 1 reason why we should be higher than Stains, Wigan, catalans, Leeds next season, given that we've completly changed our squad and set up.

He may start to realise that our lot are just ultimately unsatisfiable, and pull out. If I was him, and had read all the moaning on here, I'd be getting straight out. There's no fun and appreciation wasting money on a load of spoilt brats.

And there's no fun reading the same message on multiple threads and that applies to both sides of the argument I was going to use the word debate but that implies a higher level of thought than we are currently showing as a FORUM.

It clearly bothers you that people have opinions differing from yours, so I ask why come on here and what gives you the right to call someone’s opinion a moan. I get people don’t agree with everything ever said on here but it feels like you are attacking peoples rights to their opinions

He’s still listed as a director at Companies House - you can of course be a director but not a shareholder though.

I assume Middleton has become a shareholder based on the amount he’s invested over the past few years, but be very surprised if SJM walked away. Middleton is Chairman, maybe that is where the rumour came from?

Also reported a loss of £1.1m in 2021 and some significant borrowings (£1.5m taking borrowings to £2.7m in total if I’m reading it right), which is hardly surprising - don’t think I’ve seen that reported anywhere? Guardian normally mention it…

I totally back mods decisions to lock thread after thread. People have a right to be optimistic the same as the right to be pessimistic. UR is right it's getting boring, name-calling can't be making anyone feel better right?

These insults on one thread are bad enough but others is just getting out of hand.Can we just stop it plz?

It certainly doesn't, I respect other people's opinions. What I will robustly respond to are posts which edge towards being personal - and they've been quite a few. What you have to be careful of Karetaker is taking posts out of context and what I mean is: Raticussfinch hasn't been particularly pleasant in some of his wording in posts debating content I've posted, and therefore I haven't been pleasant back. If people are respectful to me they'll get it back, no matter what they're opinion. If not, then they get what they get back. So rather than isolate a post, try and contextualise it before making judgement.

Also Karetaker, why are you just singling me out? For more creditability, you need to be highlighting others - but I understand you'd prefer to stay in the majority.

Also, it may be worth pointing out, that there are fans on here who aren't anti Powell, or still undecided. There are a considerable number of posters on here who've turned this into a no go area for them. Ditas Slot Meter made some good posts on the game thread and was unpleasantly shot down a few times. For this forum to be a no go area for people with opinions that differ to a majority is extremely poor. (Please don't tell me that only Ditas Slot Meter and my self aren't anti Powell).

That said, peace to all. Apologies if some haven't liked my tone. Its a passionate debate with strong opinions. It's going to get heated sometimes - a bit too much and I'm one of the guilty ones for that. But we're all ultimately on the same side, and I think if/when things improve, we'll all be happier. No hard feelings to anyone including Raticusfinch - I know you're just expressing dissatisfaction and fair play.

Is 2.7 million a lot when Morans wealth is reported at £170 million and Middleton £100 million, I’m sure if I bagged that £191 million euro million win the other day I could pay all the depts happily and still have a bit of change.

Is 2.7 million a lot when Morans wealth is reported at £170 million and Middleton £100 million, I’m sure if I bagged that £191 million euro million win the other day I could pay all the depts happily and still have a bit of change.

The debts are likely payable to Moran or Middleton.

Paying off Powells contract will be chump change in comparison.