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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"This is such a slippery slope that could kill sport as we know it. The RFL has no money to pay for this. How far do you go?'"
My thoughts exactly Smiffy, but also can't ignore them either. So it's a dodgy situation.
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| Are Frank Warren or Eddie Hearn on the hook for the same in pro boxing? What about MME?
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| Quote wire2004="wire2004"I'll add. There was not known the risks of head injuries as much as we know now. Cte was not even a known thing until 2015. Surely what we know now has been taken into account. We have the HIA protocol in place as it stands now. Which has come along way in the last 6 years.
But surely it is a slippery path to a final nail in the coffin for rugby league as we know it. And if it gets watered down any more. To a casual viewer. That's the death of rugby league.
Take a boxing match. You watch the fights for the technical prowess and knock outs. Same with the UFC. You watch it because of the physical nature of the sport. The same is said for rugby league. Seeing the spectacular tackles. The spectacular hits and action that it should give as a result.
It's a slippery slope when former players can sue the league 15/20/25 years after they retired due to something that was unknown at the time. And if was known. Better provisions would of been put into place at the time for the players to protect them.'"
Pretty sure some forms of CTE were known from boxing in the 50s, and they started looking at it in the early 00s off the back of nfl players.
Will smiths movie came out in 2015 though
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| Pretty sure it's being mentioned in soccer too regards heading the ball.
It's all tinged with sadness because there's blokes and families out there who have early onset dementia in their 50's.
It's not as though you can argue that you didn't know rugby was a contact sport before embarking on a career though and the RFL can demonstrate in recent years it's making changes and progress on head injuries.
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| Quote Philth="Philth"Pretty sure it's being mentioned in soccer too regards heading the ball.
It's all tinged with sadness because there's blokes and families out there who have early onset dementia in their 50's.
It's not as though you can argue that you didn't know rugby was a contact sport before embarking on a career though and the RFL can demonstrate in recent years it's making changes and progress on head injuries.'"
Exactly. Maybe it's just a very sad and unfortunate outcome and nobody is to blame for any failure of duty of care as the link has only been established after the event.
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| I think one immediate and reasonable change would be to have HIA’s conducted by an independent body. At the minute, club doctors conduct pre-season baseline assessments and the in-match assessments. While I’m not questioning their integrity, they are on the payroll of the organisation who need their “assets” on the pitch.
If the RFL conducted/appointed independent specialist doctors to conduct ALL of the HIA assessments, both pre-season, sporadic review in season and for in game knocks, they could ensure true independence to the tests. Which, if nothing else, would be a mitigation further down the line for future cases.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Are Frank Warren or Eddie Hearn on the hook for the same in pro boxing? What about MME?'"
What about you...?
I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"
I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.'"
Sounds made for Ben Flower..... 
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"What about you...?

I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.'"
As for MME, personally I find it a little barbaric, appealing to something quite base in human nature. Like stopping to look at car crashes. I cannot believe repeated punches and kicks to the head has no risk of brain damage so will MME be faced with law suits ?
I guess a difference maybe that RL players are employees but if that was the case the action would be against their former employers. In that case they would have to take action against each club in the hope one sticks but the the burden of proof would be which club failed in it's duty of care. 
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"As for MME, personally I find it a little barbaric, appealing to something quite base in human nature. Like stopping to look at car crashes. I cannot believe repeated punches and kicks to the head has no risk of brain damage so will MME be faced with law suits ?
I guess a difference maybe that RL players are employees but if that was the case the action would be against their former employers. In that case they would have to take action against each club in the hope one sticks but the the burden of proof would be which club failed in it's duty of care.
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It's not necessarily the case. Take pro wrestling over 50 wrestlers from a few eras of wrestling unsuccessfully fuked a lawsuit against the WWE. Quiet a few of the former wrestlers have never even been under contract to wwe. But some of them wcw. Which they filed against wwe as they bought wcw in 2001. The wrestlers are classed as independent contractors. But still filed against wwe. This was eventually dismissed by the American courts.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"What about you...?

I agree though. Kneeling over somebody stricken landing bare fist punches. Some sport that.'"
Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Since you say 'bare fisted' clearly you don't watch mma.'"
Come on cat, they are hardly boxing gloves are they?
No i don't watch it. I could get it for free if i stand at the top of King Street of a weekend. I don't see the attraction. Until recently i was on Facebook and used to see posts like 'MMA training tonight' Seems everyone in the world is an MMA fighter but me. I'd better stay indoors 
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