Who cares about the top 5?!

I'll review this topic next Sunday.

If we end out of the 5 that surely will cause the board to act and to eject Price early. Better than watching us be poor next year and slow death.

I think appointing Holbrook with a few games left of 2017 really let saints hit the ground running for 2018 and they have been great since.

They very nearly made the GF in 2017 a few months into his appointment. Did they lose by 1 point to Castleford I think in the semi.

I don't think appointing Price any earlier in 2017 would have made any difference to our current predicament.

We didn't need to appoint Price early, we got the "new coach bounce" under Tony Smith, when we won 7 out of 7 at the business end of the season.

If that had happened under a new coach, the legend would have grown that they "saved us from relegation" and that would have been counted as credit in the bank for them.

You're probably right, I think they just got the better coach. It's so dissapointing because last season I felt we were definitely heading in the right direction and getting to both finals was a great achievement. I know we have a chance of doing the same again but it just feels like we have gone backwards at an alarming rate this season. Our attack absolutely stinks.

Apologies if my math is wrong, but by my working out Warrington could end the next round of fixtures in 5th place.

Should Salford beat you by 24+, Wigan and Hull win you'll drop to 5th.

Should Cas and Catalans both win too only points difference will separate you and Cas and only 2 points separate you and Catalans.

I realize you've got bigger fish to fry this week but this is a top 5 thread.

Salford would have to beat us by 47, which is possible. For us to go 5th. 4th position looks the best bet.

We would need to win by 24

The difference between our points difference is 46.

A 24 point margin of victory for Salford would result in a 48 point swing in the points difference.

In 2017 i think it is possible that we won every game in the relegation zone because the other teams were worse than us.
I wondered then & wonder the same now ,is there an attitude among the players that they will turn up & play when it suits them ?

I understand what you mean 9A, and have had the same thoughts myself.
That's a fundamental professionalism and attitude problem - and maybe that's where we are.
But I really struggle to think that any player would not want to give 100% every time they play (only possible exception is before a 'final' - but it's not as if we dont need a win to get out of this slump).
And honestly speaking I give us a near zero chance at the weekend - espcially as even if Ratch and Austin play I don't think they will be 100%, and the Wembley turf always finds injured players out.