I've long thought one problem with 'Biff' (or lack thereof from Wire) is that we don't seem to get away with it like other teams do. Watch a Wire/Wigan game and the majority of Wigan tackles make you cringe with third-manning, arms and legs being twisted, turning the ball-carrying player over/round, nearly every tackle could be penalised in some way shape or form by an overly diligent ref. Yet, Wire don't seem to be able to do the same for fear of being penalised.

We're not a dirty team, and can't mix it in the same way as those who are good at getting away with it, IMO.

Too many minutes go by without biff in a Wire vs Pies game these days.

I remember the times when we couldn't win a game against them, but we always come home satisfied knowing we'd won the fight!

Anyways my point is about Price moaning about it. Opening his mouth will only allow our opponent to see that it's a weak spot. If a team has spoiling tactics and can get away with it...we must deal with it. Proper rough up in return but alas cheap Hill style penalties aren't that. (Although he's not been too bad of late), but don't spit the dummy out Pricey.

Have you got a link to the interview? I heard him complain about the penalty given against Roberts for the dummy half passing it into him. Haven't heard the interview with him complaining about getting 'roughed up'

It was the local guardian twitter post. I can't remember the gist now and the topic has branched out since...but it was enough for me to post that his moaning isn't going to get the result changed. Doing a number on Roberts and frustrating him and Pricey is fine by me, doing zero to counter on the field and moaning about it after isn't.

Interview below. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... s-dragons/

Interview below. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... s-dragons/

The hiring/bringing in for pre season classes of [i wrestling coaches[/i by clubs, has slowed down our game hugely, in the last decade. No wonder we can't compete and beat the Aussies.
I watched the second SoO a couple of weeks ago (nowt better to do), and was amazed with the speed of their play the balls. Yes, of course their game had some [irough stuff[/i, but it's good biff, and they get on with the game.

Ours is just petty niggle, and dragging teams down to a lower level.

All high tackles should be a penalty & at least 10 minutes in the bin, no matter how many times the ref has wagged his finger at a player , a high tackle & your off. Losing playing staff might encourage coaches to insist on tackling below the shoulders & to work on improved tackling techniques.

Round the legs even

so even accidental high tackles when a player is slipping? This is why the game is going soft

It would have to be at the ref's discretion.

Aren't we back where we started now?

Yeah I agree. The slowing down tactics aren’t part of the roughing up for me. It’s going that extra effort in a tackle, not just just take a man down but to hammer him down and give him a push in the head on your way back up. Letting him know you’ve had him. That’s what the whole Aussie game is all about. There’s loads of hard tackles and intimidatory stuff but the PTBs are cleaner and faster than ours because they aren’t bothered about turtling, holding down, pulling arms, pretending to be trapped in.