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Quote: rubber duckie "My reasons for expecting nothing but 6/6 wins aren't that of bigotry and arrogance but of pure odds.
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The odds for Warrington winning 6 in a row will surely be < 50%.

Probably why Fred and Peter Done are billionaires.

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Odds are in RL are initially guided by historic form hence Cas followed by Leeds and Pies.
If one is prepared to look deeper than just that, money can be made in rl. ...betting shops are making more money from longer hours and shop and online gaming.
Their attention to RL is there for us to exploit as it's way down on the target market.

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We are the team in Super League with the longest winning run of 10 games. We have not been beaten since the 1st of July

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True, although the last 7 games were in the Qualifiers.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Odds are in RL are initially guided by historic form hence Cas followed by Leeds and Pies.
If one is prepared to look deeper than just that, money can be made in rl. ...betting shops are making more money from longer hours and shop and online gaming.
Their attention to RL is there for us to exploit as it's way down on the target market.'"


OK sounds interesting. For 2018 why not record your tips and betting results on here so we can follow your progress and look at the return.

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Quote: Wires71 "OK sounds interesting. For 2018 why not record your tips and betting results on here so we can follow your progress and look at the return.'"


Not sure if you're attempting a soft patronise of me or you didn't fully understand my post. I'll take it as the later though, I don't think you're that type of poster.

My post is referring to the current prices of start up for the SL title and the probability of league finishing position over the season.

Individual games have factors that can come into play.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Not sure if you're attempting a soft patronise of me or you didn't fully understand my post. I'll take it as the later though, I don't think you're that type of poster.

My post is referring to the current prices of start up for the SL title and the probability of league finishing position over the season.

Individual games have factors that can come into play.'"


No I'm being serious. If you have a Super League betting approach that generates return I am sure we are all interested - certainly I am.

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Quote: Wires71 "No I'm being serious. If you have a Super League betting approach that generates return I am sure we are all interested - certainly I am.'"


Me too. I need dollah bills yo

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I completely buy into us having longer odds on the title, or even game by game early on, than we probably should have due to last season's crap, and being able to exploit that knowing that knowing we're better than the bookies computers think we are. But justifying 6 wins from 6 in a run containing Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Hull away - I just don't see it.

Even if we had an 80% chance of winning each game, when you multiply the odds over 6 games that works out at a 26% chance of winning all 6.

FWIW, my minimum expectation would be wins over Hudds and Widnes, and 2 wins from the other 4 - so 4/6.

5/6 I'd be very happy.

6/6 I'll pitch a tent outside Old Trafford chanting "Tony who?"

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It's simple. Over 23 or 30 games.
You can bet both.
It's all about the probability...what happened last season has almost no factor on what happens this season but the limited knowledge means that is all a bookmaker will go with.

....however BWW does gave a valid point...Wire did have a run in of form....this the bookies have overlooked while focusing on the larger picture of Wires finish position in 2017...Leeds finished 2016 with the same sort of predicament and carried the form through into 2017.

Still the larger picture not taking form into it, is Wire and Wigan, have the strongest teams in the competition on paper...I have a rule...a big good un is better than a small good un.
Spend the most money and you have the biggest squad, unless the money isn't spent wisely.

So there you have it...Wire at 6/1 and Pies at 9/2... the probability is that one of these teams WILL finish top...you could bet them both at those odds....you could even ask for odds of 1st and 2nd as a forcast...which I only just thought of now, so I'll be down the bookies to enquire of that.

I already got greedy and bet on Wire early doors, bet the double with the cc...I don't have enough money to take proper advantage of 6/1.

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3/6 as posters have said they are happy with would once again see us fighting to avoid the drop for relegation. That isn't anywhere near good enough for a team like Warrington.

If we aren't top 4 by May...Price needs shipping out and Hendo to replace him and if there's no improvement by July then he goes too.
No fluffing about...out.

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So are you not placing an accumulator on 6/6 for first 6 games. This is what I thought you were advocating.

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Quote: rubber duckie "It's simple. Over 23 or 30 games.
You can bet both.
It's all about the probability...what happened last season has almost no factor on what happens this season but the limited knowledge means that is all a bookmaker will go with.

....however BWW does gave a valid point...Wire did have a run in of form....this the bookies have overlooked while focusing on the larger picture of Wires finish position in 2017...Leeds finished 2016 with the same sort of predicament and carried the form through into 2017.

Still the larger picture not taking form into it, is Wire and Wigan, have the strongest teams in the competition on paper...I have a rule...a big good un is better than a small good un.
Spend the most money and you have the biggest squad, unless the money isn't spent wisely.

So there you have it...Wire at 6/1 and Pies at 9/2... the probability is that one of these teams WILL finish top...you could bet them both at those odds....you could even ask for odds of 1st and 2nd as a forcast...which I only just thought of now, so I'll be down the bookies to enquire of that.

I already got greedy and bet on Wire early doors, bet the double with the cc...I don't have enough money to take proper advantage of 6/1.'"


I hope you have not bet the league and cup double every year for the last 63 years. icon_wink.gif

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Saints were crap all last season yet came within a Morgan brain fart of the grand final. They could and should have been facing Leeds at Old Trafford.

Whilst I don’t want to see us play as crap as Saints did, I would be happy to slowly improve over the season even if the start isn’t great. Last year showed that this league format enables you to be mediocre all year and peak when it counts.

So I wouldn’t say 3/6 puts us in a relegation situation, especially as we won’t be relegated when licensing comes back in. I want better but 3/6 is not the end of the world.

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Quote: rubber duckie "3/6 as posters have said they are happy with would once again see us fighting to avoid the drop for relegation. That isn't anywhere near good enough for a team like Warrington.

If we aren't top 4 by May...Price needs shipping out and Hendo to replace him and if there's no improvement by July then he goes too.
No fluffing about...out.'"


If you’re being serious then you talk absolute rubbish. Warringtons recruitment has been nowhere near as good as you and loads of others have been making out. The only top signing is BMM with Goodwin and Brown, Akauola struggling to get a game in the NRL (doesn’t mean he’ll fail, I know) and Roberts who by all accouts isn’t a bad player but not marquee standard. I’m not criticising that recruitment either I think it’s good on the whole but not good enough to take a relegation contender to grand final contender even if this league is average. For me, a lot of wire (and non wire) fans need to be more realistic and patient, this is very much a transition year with a very thin squad so 5th or 6th would be a successful season and as a non Warrington fan I don’t see Warrington as contenders and am not particularly worried by them. I’m not saying all this to criticise Warrington either, I just can’t believe that you would actually want Price sacked if you weren’t top 4 by May, if you’re being serious.

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