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| Quote: ninearches "As with all things sky ,the fans who want to support their teams from the terraces are the last people to be considered. Sky might be happy for you to support any particular team or any sport but ultimately they want you to support sky £££££ .'"
Yet again I will state:
Sky put the offer on the table, it was the SL chairmen who voted (in majority) to accept it. They are the ones who made the decision which affects their fans on their terraces through accepting the changing kick off times and dates in accordance with that TV deal.
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| Doesnt the Sky payment dwarf ticket receipts anyway?
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "I'm not sure how many games these days you have to miss for a season ticket to lose it's value cf 'pay on the day'? I had a season ticket here and also a season ticket at a 'local' Association Football Club and a clash generally mean't missing the Wire (not a true fan) so now pay on the day.
I've never been disappointed by not being able to get in as a previous correspondent has mentioned, so the flexibility of 'pay as you go' works for me'"
I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.
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| Quote: karetaker "I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.'"
Thanks, I asked on the basis of not knowing what the prices are rather than finding a method of working it out
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| Quote: karetaker "I think it’s 3 or possibly 4, either way it’s simple enough to do the maths.'"
I usually miss a couple of games per season due to holidays so it was still worth getting a season ticket. This year I've missed 6 or 7 though. I'm not going to bother next year, just pay on the gate and get spares from mates when they can't go. My lad lost interest altogether this season and only used his season ticket twice.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Doesnt the Sky payment dwarf ticket receipts anyway?'"
Well, some rather dubious maths, might suggest:
From the £200m for 5 years Sky TV deal, the SL clubs will each receive £1.825m per year.
If we say Wires have a average gate of 9000 for 14 home games at £20 per ticket then total gate receipts would be £2.5m
Albeit the matchday supporter might then spend more on the day (programme, refreshments, merch), then offset by running costs (those pesky spectators need looking after, stewards, police, etc).
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| I have renewed again for next season prior to the sacking of Smith. Last season was poor entertainment wise but I still enjoy going to the game.
I know full well unless I have my season ticket I would find an excuse to spend the money on something else so it's my way of ensuring my ticket is already sorted.
I'm thoroughly looking forward to next season already. I think it's going to be a tough one but we are fortunate the SL isn't particularly strong at the moment which could help us with our rebuild. I'm hoping we as the fans see this as a clean slate and get behind the team regardless of results because it isn't going to be easy.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Well, some rather dubious maths, might suggest
£40m per annum / 12 clubs is £3.33M. Where does the balance go - RFL running costs? We know that Wood is on £0.4M.
Ticket receipts, less VAT = £2.08M.
Also didn't Broomhead say that the club was subsidising beer by 30p a pint?
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I found the details as:
The five-year deal breaks down as follows:
The amount being paid for club and international matches will be £182,200,000 in total.
Of that total, £146,760,000, or 80 per cent, will go to Super League clubs.
£14,576,000 or 8 per cent, will go to the twelve Championship clubs in the second tier.
£1,822,000, or one per cent, will go to the Championship One clubs.
£20,042,000, or 11 per cent, will be paid for Challenge Cup and internationals coverage.
For that, Sky Sports will broadcast 71 Super League games per season, 17 Championship games and one Championship one game, while they will also broadcast eleven Challenge Cup games.
BSkyB will also pay another £17,800,000 during the course of the contract, and that money will be paid for coaching and to the clubs’ charitable foundations, with the first payment of £100,000 per club being made in July.
Under the terms of the new contract the annual payment to Super League clubs will rise to £1,825,000 per club, which will just about cover the salary cap.
www.totalrl.com/ins-outs-super-l ... w-tv-deal/
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I found the details as:
The five-year deal breaks down as follows:
The amount being paid for club and international matches will be £182,200,000 in total.
Of that total, £146,760,000, or 80 per cent, will go to Super League clubs.
£14,576,000 or 8 per cent, will go to the twelve Championship clubs in the second tier.
£1,822,000, or one per cent, will go to the Championship One clubs.
£20,042,000, or 11 per cent, will be paid for Challenge Cup and internationals coverage.
For that, Sky Sports will broadcast 71 Super League games per season, 17 Championship games and one Championship one game, while they will also broadcast eleven Challenge Cup games.
BSkyB will also pay another £17,800,000 during the course of the contract, and that money will be paid for coaching and to the clubs’ charitable foundations, with the first payment of £100,000 per club being made in July.
Under the terms of the new contract the annual payment to Super League clubs will rise to £1,825,000 per club, which will just about cover the salary cap.
www.totalrl.com/ins-outs-super-l ... w-tv-deal/
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| Noting not all the money goes to SL clubs, the bit I didn't understand is the:
£146m to go to SL clubs (where 12 clubs over 5 years = £146m/12/5 = £2.4m)
but later on it says
Annual payment to SL clubs.... £1.825m per club (£1.825 * 12 * 5 = £109.5m)
Hence there's £36.5m of the SL money going somewhere else ?
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| Anyway the point wan't to debate the ins/out of the TV deal, but to look at the contribution of matchdays takings compared to TV money, where, even for a well supported club such as Wires they are reasonably comparable.
Hence without the TV deal we'd have to double our attendance, and I guess that the percentage of fans who don't attend because of the TV is easily offset by the TV income.
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| Thanks for the figures. Yeah a 10% drop in attendance isn't going to worry us.
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| If they paid me I would not step foot in the ground again. The club is a joke, so many people I know have been treated bad by the club one way or another and people have long memory's.
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Noting not all the money goes to SL clubs, the bit I didn't understand is the:
£146m to go to SL clubs (where 12 clubs over 5 years
Well you don’t see Nigel Wood looking hungry do you
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| Quote: karetaker "Well you don’t see Nigel Wood looking hungry do you
I know. There is chubby, portly, rotund, podgy, fat, obese and there is Wood like. No need for anyone to be that overweight, shows a lack of discipline.
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