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| Quote Wire Weaver="Wire Weaver"Heard that both him and Smith are going at the end of the season.'"
Just out of curiosity , by "heard" do you mean from an independent reputable source, or just that you've read it somewhere else on this here forum ?
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| The rumour was TS and Agar tendered resignation following defeat at Wakefield that that then took top 8 aspirations out of our hands.
SJM asked them to stay until the season is over.
Rumour from OZ puts Agar keen to get other employment. TS has done ok out of Wire. Perhaps he wants time out?
Moley reports Wire search activities...vague from him not mentioning who or what.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"The rumour was TS and Agar tendered resignation following defeat at Wakefield that that then took top 8 aspirations out of our hands.
SJM asked them to stay until the season is over.
Rumour from OZ puts Agar keen to get other employment. TS has done ok out of Wire. Perhaps he wants time out?
Moley reports Wire search activities...vague from him not mentioning who or what.'"
That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.
If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.
If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.'"
I have no answer to the not making sense. Little makes sense of the this season.
As regards SJM decision I cannot answer for him either.
My only thought is SJM considers the ship is in a better position following course until docked over a rudderless mutiny.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"I have no answer to the not making sense. Little makes sense of the this season.
As regards SJM decision I cannot answer for him either.
My only thought is SJM considers the ship is in a better position following course until docked over a rudderless mutiny.'"
Can only assume who they want to replace Smithgar is currently unavailable to take over (hypothetically), and they remember the last time someone was brought in as a temporary measure, big Jimmy Lowes!
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"That doesn't make any sense, the coaching team that have contributed to the worst finish in ages, that you don't trust to take the club any further, you want them to stay on to complete the season rather than kicking them out the door, bringing in the new team who have to deal with a dozen expiring contracts, who they want to retain for 'their' team the following season and also starting to recruit externally as well.
If you don't think their worth investing in any further, because you're disappointed, get them gone and try get the fans back onside.'"
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if it was a case of briers n Clarke to the end f the season whilst we search for replacement I cannot say I think our results would have been any worse that under smith, very often in sport when a side replaces a manager there is often an upturn in performances for whatever reason a new voice and ideas are often whats needed to get the players firing again.
we can only speculate about what if we had changed the management early enough after 8/9 games we could still have made top8 and possibly top4 if had made changes at the right time hindsight is great but I feel a lot of people could have predicted a poor season after a short amount of time yet the well paid so called professionals did not and we have suffered for it
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| Quote Dezzies_right_hook="Dezzies_right_hook"this^^^^
we can only speculate about what if we had changed the management early enough after 8/9 games we could still have made top8 and possibly top4 if had made changes at the right time hindsight is great but I feel a lot of people could have predicted a poor season after a short amount of time yet the well paid so called professionals did not and we have suffered for it'"
Exactly. St Helens acted decisively and now have a sporting chance of the Top 4. Our problems were just as evident as those of our neighbours, but inaction has seen us into a battle for survival.
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| Despite the talk of searches for a replacement getting under way in Oz, I feel that the options tabled were probably for an upcoming Aussie coach to work under Smith. And to be fair as an upcoming Aussie coach like Furner, I would want control of the reigns not to play second fiddle to somebody. My guess is they said no thanks.
I predict we'll be stuck with the current regime for the foreseeable future. I can't see the board sacking Smith, so we'll likely see a new number 2 brought in at some point in the future but nothing will really change. We need a fresh start and a clean sheet for the players.
6th-8th place for us next year and mediocrity resumed a la 2015. However the club will still be in profit so the sporting achievements side of things will take second stage for the next few years.
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| Quote easyWire="easyWire"Despite the talk of searches for a replacement getting under way in Oz, I feel that the options tabled were probably for an upcoming Aussie coach to work under Smith. And to be fair as an upcoming Aussie coach like Furner, I would want control of the reigns not to play second fiddle to somebody. My guess is they said no thanks.
I predict we'll be stuck with the current regime for the foreseeable future. I can't see the board sacking Smith, so we'll likely see a new number 2 brought in at some point in the future but nothing will really change. We need a fresh start and a clean sheet for the players.
6th-8th place for us next year and mediocrity resumed a la 2015. However the club will still be in profit so the sporting achievements side of things will take second stage for the next few years.'"
Anything is possible, but the post match interview with TS after the Wigan away win said to me he was out. That would tie in with Agar looking for another job.
Why would SM tie his hands and restrict his choice of new coaches by insisting TS remained, particularly after TS has been seen to fail in maintaining the club in the top 4.
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| Is there any actual proof of TS handing in his resignation or is it just rumor on here. Only ask because i didnt pick anything up at the meeting last night that he would be gone when recruitment was talked about. I mean would a guy be involved in recruitment if was not going to be there, strange if that was the case.
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| Again hypothetically, Smith would still have a passion for the club, but sees he needs to move on to get the team going again next year, SJM wants a smooth transition but still trust Smith's input.
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| How you lot can blame Agar for your sides comical season is equally comical! Not one of you lot slaughtered him when the gormless giggler was laughing his way all the way to Old Trafford. Easy to pick fault when the going gets tough. Anyway, see you all on Friday on the Axminster!
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