we need a decent new prop and 2 new HB's.... infact we probably need 2 new props.

next season we will have lost lost cooper, morley, carvell, wood, asotasi..... and replaced them with england..... we are obviously light in the front row....im expecting at least 2 new props to come in.

I saw one effort of credit from England tonight. His size and frame defies logic, he ought to be trashing defended like Mosi

Burns and Walsh were (in my eyes) playing second/third fiddle to Roby. It was Roby who conducted things.

Walsh had a couple of good kicks in the second half that put our FB under pressure. Burns was he usual self a pretty average player with a need to niggle instead of being creative.

As MD says wouldn't want either in the team going forward.

I think England needs some time to get his confidence back.

We need Sandow or one of the many being looked at immediately, a drunken squirrel has more creativity that our half backs.

This is true, Walsh has only played 3 or 4 games and is settling in, Burns is unpredictable and an irritant to the opposition. For Roby, teams have been trying to keep him out of the game for the last 10 years but 99% of the time they can't. He scored a try in "his sleep" last night.

Burns won you the game jinking in midfield and setting up the break for Quinlan. We don't have anyone who could/would have the balls do that. www.skysports.com/rugby-league/l ... 543/report

Burns won you the game jinking in midfield and setting up the break for Quinlan. We don't have anyone who could/would have the balls do that. www.skysports.com/rugby-league/l ... 543/report

Roby has all of the game management that i talked about above. He leads his team to certain areas of the pitch, he provides space for his players to get time on the ball for a good pass or kick, if a set-set of six is read and shut down by the opposition he creates something new himself from a run or a bullet pass the other way, he can even kick well from the back of the ruck and he's about the fifth best kicker in Saints team...he'd be the best in our team.

It does help then that when roby has done 75% of the team's work from tackle 1-5, that on the last they have four good kickers of the ball (Turner, Burns, Wilkin and Walsh) - Walsh's bombs weren't just about his good kicks, they were also about the space provided by Roby to allow him to kick them.

Someone who ain't afraid to dish out a roasting when needed. Not enough vocal players you'd expect the likes of Westwood Sims Hill to be barking orders or jeering up the players. Gidley night offer that only time will time.

Sandow wouldn't have made a difference last night Saints had a game plan which wasn't to dissimilar to ours against Wigan.

How would I rate Burns?

A grub, that's how I would rate him. A whining, complaining, dirt merchant s---house. Makes Jason Hooper look like a law abiding RL player.

As for Walsh, he looked knackered to me. Like he's still not fully fit.

Aggressive defence....if you turn the ball over you need to work on getting it back asap ,opponents can't score without the ball.
More composure & less panic rugby.

Well exactly. Our halves weren't and aren't great. We're the champions and currently top of the league. The claims that Warrington would clean up if they had half backs seems a bit daft. Your current halves are every bit as good as ours.

Now you're just being ridiculous.

Joke of the week right there..

Wow he does talk some

I don't understand you lot.
Post after post saying it's not the halves it's Roby, all sounding like Stevo. Saddo comes out to agree with you then he gets ridiculed because of his placky Sts view.

Personally I think Saints game has always been to scoot from dummy half. This season though, it's more mixed up. Now they have an unusually big pack for them, and KC is getting the best of it. That in turn is giving Roby game minutes of breaks. It'll probably give their most important player less cause for the many injuries he picked up throughout the years through his reliant game.

I was very impressed by saints on Thursday ,the chasing ,the smart play ,pretty awesome pack ,Roby is a class player and well on way to being a saints legend but, we matched them for most of the game and if we'd taken chances have easily won .some additions to our squad and our future is bright