We will. And when we then have a game to win to get to OT, who knows? and then...

and its a big fat whopping no from me as well...we lack in attack and our defence is garbage...as a previous poster said the league doesnt lie...5th at best but 6th or 7th is where this sorry lot will end up

The league doesn't lie. We were 4th before this weekend. We are one point behind fourth now. Crazy season in terms of results.

it is a crazy season for results but our performances are of a team fighting for 6th and 7th place and not top 4...i hope we do get the top 4 tho but just cant see it at the moment....

I fancy ourselves against anyone on a one off performance. However, quite obviously, the league isn't based on one off performances. Its so frustrating watching us play against Leeds home and away and looking really good, and then having to watch some of the rubbish that's been served up to us in other games. I think 4th position is just about where we will finish up, behind Saints, Leeds and the Pies.

I'm going to say no... We can beat anyone the 2 Leeds games have shown that.. However we lack attitude and sheer grit and determination in games like yesterday when a team turns up ready for a battle.... The 2 Widnes games were prime examples and we were very lucky against them the other week..

Skybet must know something we dont, they currently have us at 5/1 to win the grand final and Huddersfield at 16/1 who currently sit 4th. Well as we know to get a chance to go to old trafford we at least have to be 4th at seasons end,im confused at them odds.

Top 4 ?
You're 'avin a larf !

4th to 11th are pretty inconsistent, so it's one from eight for me for fourth spot.

No - i simply can't see us doing it.
I think Hudds will. Brough showed why last weekend.
Any of the eight could do it by putting a run together, but I can't see us doing that at the moment.

No.

Next 3 league games:

Salford (A)
Saints (N) at Newcastle
Catalans (H)

For me I don't think we have a chance against any of them. I hope I'm proved wrong completley.

Absolutely not. Haven't thought it all season. We are just an average side. Not an average side that is consistently average, but a side that is amazing one week then appalling for the next three and that is just another way of being an average side.

I think if Catalan and Huddersfield can keep players fit they'll finish above us as well as Saints (3rd) Leeds (2nd) and Wigan (1st). Castleford may well finish above us as well.

We lack so many things in so many areas it's painful when you think how good we were as recently as two years ago.

the worrying thing for me is that we have played 14 games and the breakdown looks like this

games played well in = 3 (and one of them is wakefield at home)
games played badly in = 11

we wont win anything this season.. again

In true Dragon's Den stylee "I'm out"

Unless we grow a backbone (which doesn't look like happening, anytime soon), then we've not got a chance of top 4. Anyone who thinks otherwise, is simply taking club love, to a new level.

Take Ben Westwood out of that side, and we've NOT ONE PLAYER, who'd hold his hand up, and say "I'll give EVERY last fibre of my soul, to help us win".
Hill's an awesome player, and would make an excellent fist of it, at ANY team in the world, but he's all about work. He needs a little bit of "nasty" about him, a la James Graham (but not the disciplinary aspect) to help get us back to the level we need to be.

Sims, despite all his "huffing and puffing" when he goes into the tackle, just isn't at the level he needs to be, or we need him to be.

Asotasi really is a laughing stock. It's beyond funny, now. His Wire "career" has descended into the realms of Monty Python's deepest levels of surrealism.

Ben Harrison. He might "mix it", but it'll take him 5 minutes to get there (surely the slowest forward in modern day RL)

Currie & Laithwaite. It's like expecting to be savaged by a dead sheep. It's almost as if we've got Sgt Wilson from Dad's Army saying "Would you mind awfully, if I tackled you? Oh you don't! Good show"........[size=200GET IN THERE[/size

Until our pack buck their ideas up, we're going nowhere, fast.

I think we'll finish in ANY position, ranging from 5th to 10th. It all depends on the attitude/motivation of the players.