I'd have GOB back at saints if you guys don't want him. He has flaws to his game sure, but plenty of scope to work on them, but he needs game time to do so - would work well as our stand off for this season

I reluctantly agree.
let him go and for full his promise and hope he comes faces us and makes pay one time.

Gareth may not make it at Warrington, or in SL in general, HOWEVER, he has shown enough potential to be given a chance to prove his abilities. Throughout his Warrington career he has been shipped out on loan, used when we have injuries (and therefore the team and halfbacks are disrupted) and never given a prolonged spell in the team.

Let ME put it on record that the player under most pressure this season is Myler. If we'd have been as dismissive of him in the early days as we appear to be of O'Brien then Myler would have dismissed years ago as not good enough. However, quite rightly he was afforded plenty of game time and patience to become a key team member but it is only in the last 12 months he has begun to fulfill that role and his promise. This year Myler needs to step up and finally become the lead playmaker and organiser.

Gazza wasn't an expensive buy compared to Myler.

We're doing to O'brien what saints did to briers, soon he'll be off and with his potential he could be an outstanding player like briers was for us.

So on last season's form for Saints was GOB a better player than Ratchford or Myler?

How's that?

I don't recall O'Brien playing lots of games leading up to a Challenge Cup Final and then being dropped for the actual final. I do however recall that happening to Myler, perhaps O'Brien should learn from Myler and knuckle down and improve his game and physique then when he gets a chance due to one of our HALF-BACKS getting injured he'll be ready to take his chance.

O'Brien was injured in training and had to have a knee operation after he returned from Saints last year but don't let the truth get in the way.

What if neither of them get injured and we keep winning so a spot doesn't open for him?

Are we just going to waste his talent?

It may be that O'Brien has to go elsewhere if that happens. That's what happens sometimes even with the best in the world, Thurston moved from Canterbury due to lack of a regular first team berth because Anasta and Sherwin were in front of him. To an extent he's in a similar position as Matty Smith was at Saints.

Don't get me wrong I like O'Brien and have done for a number of years having watched him since he was a 17 year old in our u20s however having done that I have the opinion that if Russell is injured then the obvious choice is for Rhys Evans to step in for him rather than disrupt our first choice half-backs.

Gaz was fit when brought back from saints, Smith then played Grix at hb against saints, again not giving him a chance. That kid the truth & I haven't said anything but ...

Am I missing something here? Have I pricked my finger on a spinning wheel during autumn and nodded off?

When did Rathford produce a performance to convince us all bets are off on Briers stand-off role?
When did we decide exactly where Matty Russell's best role in the team is and on what evidence?
Since when does paying a fee for anyone (Myler) give them a guaranteed first-team berth?

As far as I'm concerned in the new regime, every jersey if up-for-grabs and plenty of people have a point to prove, but this is particularly true at full-back and half-back given the quality of the players we have lost in those roles. The only criteria for which players occupy those roles v Saints should be based on pre-season training, performance v Salford and, of course, fitness.