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| Quote: the flying biscuit "the Greatest Sportsman I have ever met, could only have been topped by Senna or Ali for me.
Banyon Makes me laugh.... a thread about the greatest of all rugby League players and yet the fool still make jibes......i'm only suprised He/she didnt mention him being another over 30 player on our books.'"
A reserve grader from Australia that didn't make a first team appearance for the Roosters. In todays rules he wouldn't have got a work permit so we could have given a chance to a lad from Woolston instead.
The answer to Banyon is it was before we last won the league championship because we last won it in 2011.
I wish there was more video footage of Bevan, at least you can see clips of Bradman playing cricket, Bevan is a great enigma to all but the oldest of us. I know the game was different then but to dominate the try scoring charts by such a margin and for as long as he did, in a team that was good but wasn't dominating year after year by any means, suggests he obviously had something totally different than his peers. I imagine him as an Offiah type player with out and out pace and the ability to swerve and step without dropping his pace, must have been a heck of an exciting sight for fans at Wilderspool.
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| I'm lucky enough to have seen Brian Bevan play. I saw him score the winning try for Wire v Saints in the Lancashire Cup Final at Central Park (around 1960)
He was a great try scoring winger, BUT the greatest player? I wouldn't say so. That accolade would fall to Murphy and Boston as they could play in different positions and still be match winners. Boston played in major finals at wing, centre and stand off.
Murphy played at Wembley at stand off and centre (and may have played at scrum half for Leigh and or Wire)
Back to Bevan, Billy B rates him as the best winger he played against, followed by Tom Van Vollehoven.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
He was a great try scoring winger, BUT the greatest player? I wouldn't say so. That accolade would fall to Murphy and Boston as they could play in different positions and still be match winners. Boston played in major finals at wing, centre and stand off.
Murphy played at Wembley at stand off and centre (and may have played at scrum half for Leigh and or Wire)
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yep just like Maradonna or Pele arent the worlds greatest ever footballers because they couldnt defend and were hopeless goalkeepers...........
what strange thing to say
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| Is Rogues not entitled to his opinion? He has after all seen all three players play which is more than most of us.
I haven't seen Bevan play, but I have seen Offiah who was my Bevan, he was a genius and the most exciting player I have seen, but my opinion is the greatest is Ellery Hanley never mind how many tries Offiah scored.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Is Rogues not entitled to his opinion? He has after all seen all three players play which is more than most of us.
I haven't seen Bevan play, but I have seen Offiah who was my Bevan, he was a genius and the most exciting player I have seen, but my opinion is the greatest is Ellery Hanley never mind how many tries Offiah scored.'"
Hanley is better than Offiah because he was a great player not because Offiah couldnt/never played wing fullback or centre and thats Rogues' argument (or rather excuse to not rate Bevan as the greatest).
incidently Rogues I believe Boston said Bevan was "the greatest he played against" he didnt stipulate the specific position just simply the Greatest.
I'll sit back and wait ten years and if Sam tomkins plays all his career at full back I can discount him as a great because other great players will have played a variety of positions....? just like Billy Slaters' not as good as Lockyer because lockyer played fullback and stand off????
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Is Rogues not entitled to his opinion? He has after all seen all three players play which is more than most of us.
I haven't seen Bevan play, but I have seen Offiah who was my Bevan, he was a genius and the most exciting player I have seen, but my opinion is the greatest is Ellery Hanley never mind how many tries Offiah scored.'"
It's another very badly disguised chance to have a pop at Warrington whilst bigging up Wigan. It's both boring and tedious.
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| Quote: Galloping Ghost "It's another very badly disguised chance to have a pop at Warrington whilst bigging up Wigan. It's both boring and tedious.'"
It looks like the opinion of a person who's witnessed these player's playing.
Don't be so precious.
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| Quote: Conman "It looks like the opinion of a person who's witnessed these player's playing.
Don't be so precious.'"
You obviously don't know him very well then.
He uses bias, misinformation and pettiness in pretty much everythin he says (all of which are displayed in that post)
By the way, rogues, what did bridge do that deserved to be sent off at hudds? God, that was an embarrassing bias bull spew from him.
Sad when a man of age goes senile and spouts boring constantly.
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| It was a totally unbiased view of three great players (Bevan, Boston and Murphy) In fairness I should probably have added Neil Fox.
IMO Boston, Murphy and Fox were better all round players than Bevan, but that's not deriding Bevan who was a great winger.
What I find amazing is those who are having a pop, who never saw any of those fantastic players in real action.
AS I said previously I saw Bevan play in that Lancashire Cup Final v Saints at Central Park and Saints switched Vollenhoven to the left wing to mark him.
For those who actually went did Saints play in Black jersey with a White Vee that day? It was well over 50 years ago.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
What I find amazing is those who are having a pop, who never saw any of those fantastic players in real action.'"
To be fair they're having a pop at you and your tiresome, passive aggressive persona on this board, not the players. If you acted your not inconsiderable age a bit more you'd get cut some slack. As it is, you're just seen as an Odemwingie with a bag of werthers originals and a cheeky smile.
Harsh but fair.
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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "To be fair they're having a pop at you and your tiresome, passive aggressive persona on this board, not the players. If you acted your not inconsiderable age a bit more you'd get cut some slack. As it is, you're just seen as an Odemwingie with a bag of werthers originals and a cheeky smile.
Harsh but fair.'"
Aggressive, get real. I stand by what I said, Bevan was great winger, the other three were better rugby players.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aggressive, get real. I stand by what I said, Bevan was great winger, the other three were better rugby players.'"
Firstly, I said passive aggressive - look it up if you don't know what it means. Secondly, I was talking about your general posting style on here, not your view on Brian Bevan in respect of which I'm struggling to think of something I care less about.
OK pumpkin?
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