and your point is?

Hull, chose not to go after trouble with Idiots there in the past

Barcelona, chose to spend a similar amount of money on a Family holiday rather than on myself.

Celtic, Had every intention of going however my young lad was going to France with school leaving at 11pm and I couldn't risk not getting back on time.

I have however supported the club through the bad times and hopefully will when the good times arrive.

I dont have a problem with however people choose to follow the club, if they only watch 1 game a season they are as good a fan of the club as myself or anyone else.


I was simply acknowledging that i thought TS take on it was correct. Only an oppinion.

there all jumping on the wagon now. hence the supporters- fans difference.

we had many season at wilderspool that were terrible and we stuck by them where was all these speckies then?

Perhaps a lot of them couldn't afford it.

Perhaps parents wouldn;t take their kids to Wilderspool because it was a dive whereas the HJ has more seats.

Perhaps the club have pulled their finger out with promoting the team?

Just because somebody has only recently started going doesn;t make them any less of a fan/supporter.

it was a tenner for a wolfpack season ticket not realy much.

it didnt seem a dive at the time i dont think coz most of the grounds looked the same and i still thought ours looked impressive full.

There is a reason we needed a new ground, and that crowds increased overnight.

People didn't want to pi$$ in a gutter, or have no chance of getting food or drink in the ground, or have a restricted view, or have a stadium with three sides.

I guess you didn't go then ?
If you had you would have noticed it was full of die hard SUPPORTERS who gave up their night and money to support squadbuilder and the club and I would have said it was full of people whom the majority had supported them for a lot longer than you have !

Don't take it personally 71, he's not questioning your manhood, he's only seeking to draw a disctinction between different types of spectators.

It's a moot point anyway - the reality is that if only the die hards turned up, we wouldn't amount to very much. Every club needs their 'walk up' support.

I think Che is right - the only comment I'd make is that he's got it the wrong fan round, isn't 'fan' short for 'fanatical'? Shouldn't that label be applied to the 'thick and thing' supporters?

any successful sporting club needs fans and supporters,a loyal hardcore following needs supplementing by people who attend as and when.people react differently to results but everyone reacts the same to lack of effort,i don't think we'll see much of that under ts now,did everyone there last night at some point boo a cullen side of the pitch,i did and i would do it again if i thought they weren't trying.

Bit close to the truth was he fella, seems to have hit a raw nerve with you this one, TS was spot on about the fans and supporters scenario, people have there own take on what constitutes a fan and a supporter but TS was right about the two categories in general.

Part-time, glory hunting band wagon jumper. Why don't you stay away and leave the team to the real supporters.

I think because there would only be 52 people at every game.

How many of the packed room stayed for the AGM of Squadbuilder/Supporters Trust?

Yawn..

I reckon about 20, if that?