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Quote: RIGSBY "i cant recall wigan putting 50 on us two weeks ago at their place..in fact i think we beat em 23---4 didnt we?...what an embarassing post this is to the rest of the genuine wire supporters..biggest bunch of sour grapes post ive read!
You obviously fail to grasp the concept of my post, but with you being a St Helens fan that is understandable I suppose.

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Quote: RIGSBY "thats a laugh..baldy bentham gave wire 3 penalties in 2 minutes in our 20 metre area leading to hughe's try..'"


It is called "evening up the penalty count". It has been done plenty of times in games.

Quote: RIGSBY "then the fiasco for your last try that was dissalowed baldy gave it as a try till the video ref saw he was in touch!'"


So you expect Bentham to say no try? He made a live decision based on what he saw; if anybody should have said something it was the touch judge Mike Woodhead, he was the closest official to the incident. If Bentham saw that Evan's foot was in touch, he must have the greatest vision in the world.

However going off his performance last night, he most definitely does not......

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Just adding my two penneth!!

I honestly didn't see too much wrong with the game last night, a couple of blades of grass stopped Evans scoring in the last few minutes and had Hilly managed to stretch out a bit further within the first ten mins then his try would have been awarded. I cant remember who, but there was a kick in goal in the first half that bounced around, landed in one of our players hands but was the spilled.......had he held onto it it was another try. We made good ground and had most of the possession and territory against a fresh, in form, saints side. Not bad given our last game was 5 days earlier and theirs was 13 days earlier.

Yes we spilled balls, and the running was off but we could still have won. I'm also not having this Saints are crap thats being spouted around, they are a form team at the mo who scraped a win against a Warrington side who has barely had chance to breathe since their last game.......

Says more about Saints than us I reckon.

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Quote: moving on... "

Just remember, last night we hardly looked interested for 60 minutes.'"


Our problems this season, summed up in one soundbite.

We just seem (at times) like that unfunny Catherine Tate character......am I bothered?
When we look interested, we're comfortably the best team in the league. Such a pity seem to have the attention span of a schoolkid in his 3Rd detention of the week. icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: WWRLFC78 "Just adding my two penneth!!

I honestly didn't see too much wrong with the game last night, a couple of blades of grass stopped Evans scoring in the last few minutes and had Hilly managed to stretch out a bit further within the first ten mins then his try would have been awarded. I cant remember who, but there was a kick in goal in the first half that bounced around, landed in one of our players hands but was the spilled.......had he held onto it it was another try. We made good ground and had most of the possession and territory against a fresh, in form, saints side. Not bad given our last game was 5 days earlier and theirs was 13 days earlier.

Yes we spilled balls, and the running was off but we could still have won. I'm also not having this Saints are crap thats being spouted around, they are a form team at the mo who scraped a win against a Warrington side who has barely had chance to breathe since their last game.......

Says more about Saints than us I reckon.'"



At last somebody is talking sense. I just can't believe some of the earlier posts calling for T'S to be sacked etc. I can only assume these individuals are perfect and expect the same standards from all lesser beings.

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I'd have no issue with a new coach.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I'd have no issue with a new coach.'"


And who's available should the situation arise? I don't feel there is currently anyone better than we already have nor would there be anyone better.

Unless you would want to promote from within.

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Id have John Kear and Paul Cullen assistant.
Jk for his honesty, passion and balance. PC for his attention to detail and technicalities and love.

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Surely agar will replace smith when the time comes. He's been groomed for it and is clearly a huge influence on your current performances

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Quote: WireFanatic III "You obviously fail to grasp the concept of my post, but with you being a St Helens fan that is understandable I suppose.'"


Perhaps you'd like to try again then.

You claim that the Wigan side (that Saints beat 21 - 4) would have put 50 on them......

Even Shaun Wane only claimed a 30 point difference if Ben Flower had lasted the Grand Final

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Quote: WireFanatic III "You obviously fail to grasp the concept of my post, but with you being a St Helens fan that is understandable I suppose.'"


I'm surprised you haven't put some reality into your concept, 80-0 would be a more factual score.

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Seems to me that Sandow picks his games. Awful kicking last night bar one or two that he chased. He'll be a different player come the 27th August when he wants the Lance Todd and the big cup, mark my words. If he's up for it, it's a totally different side.

Gidley by the same token often reminds me of an old dog whose heart says GO but the legs don't follow. Now and then he provides the magic and we look a different side.

Agree with those saying Sims is all sizzle and no steak, ditch the glamour look and he's a decidedly average prop.

What's the issue with Penny? He's missed in the team, Rhys much better in the centres.

Also agree overall with those saying we weren't far off last night bar mistakes and penalties. Pretty good going against the form team of the comp with only five days' turnaround.

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Agree with those saying Sims is all sizzle and no steak, ditch the glamour look and he's a decidedly average prop. Glamour look? a010.gif

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Quote: rubber duckie "Ratchford's mistakes have hurt us.'"



how many times does he lose the ball..gods sake carry it properly..and i agree with the poster who said get penny back and evans back to centre..baffling..

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Quote: dede "Agree with those saying Sims is all sizzle and no steak, ditch the glamour look and he's a decidedly average prop. Glamour look?
Ok, rockstar look, whatever. He's a nice enough guy but doesn't make enough of an impact.

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