No ive not changed my views on him, i just think he`s a fairly solid centre rather than being a match winner on a regular basis.

I view types of centres in this way.

1. You have the Bateman, Davies and Blake type centres, highly skilful and very nimble footed and can step past the opposition in the blink of an eye with a great turn of foot.

2. You then have the power type centres with the likes of Joe Ropati and Keith Senior as good examples, that type of centre will quite often run straight over their opposite number or use a powerful hand off to create the break.

3. You then have the ultimate world class centres that can combine both the above like Mal Meninga, Mark Gasnier, Jamie Lyon (At his peak) and Greg Inglis just to name a few.

You then have ones that i would class as solid centres like Bridge and Yeaman, they just quietly get on with things and do the basics well rather than being in the above catagories.

That just leaves the likes of Paul Sykes to their own unique catagory

JWP, the thing with RL as you know is you will always get differing views, you will also get fans that appreciate differnt styles of player. I was spoilt growing up as i got to see the likes of Blake, Davies, Bateman and Ropati etc, we didn`t always have the best of teams back then but we certainly had some great moments from the above 3.

I`m not having a go at Chris Bridge in any way, i think he`s a solid centre thats had to put up with quite a bit injury wise, he deserves to have a long run in the team in the one regular position because its hard for any player to improve when your being chopped and changed around so much and then having a couple of bad injuries on top of that, better coaching should help him as well.

Its better viewing him after a full season in the team in a regular position, him and Riley have done great so far on the right and they both look solid in defence.

nine pages on this i can see it becoming 15 tomorrow when the committe reach a decision!

i think they will both recieve a one game ban but dnt agree with moz being banned as he was commited and was just one of those things. However i'm not sure about Carvells you could say it was accedental but then again you could say it was careless and stupid.

Think it's ludicrous to say we are not significantly weakened, probably close to terminally, if we lose them both. Cooper and Wood will do well as starting props but we WOULD be far, far weaker than normal at the interchange. If Solomona is fit, then he and Westwood would presumably be the rotating props as I doubt we'd bring Adam Neal in as well. If that happens and we have Higham as one of the other interchanges, then we'd still have Grix and Vinnie or McCarthy as other replacements. Not a bad pack and replacements, but significantly weaker than normal. If they are banned for two weeks, then they'd miss Huddersfield which might actually be worse for us....

Aslong as both don't get banned, I'll be quite pleased.

I'd take that now.

yea, everyone wants to see moz smash eorl again

I just hope Gareth Carvell has got something else lined up for his defence tomorow because his usual reply of "innit" or "innit just" won`t go down too well at Red Hall

Don't get me wrong, It'll be bad if both are banned, but in the scheme of things, i'm not too bothered. If we have to take on Wigan with two recognised props, well, we're up against it, I'd move Louis to prop, and I'd tell him to stop thinking he has ball skills, we don't want to see them. I'd remind him that his most effective game last season was Wigan at the HJ, when he ran straight, hard lines, and was an aggresive menace all night.

Getting back the Morley & Carvell thing, yeah it's sad if they get banned, but given their previous for injuries etc, it could be worse. You could be talking on this thread about missing them for weeks & months, season over before it's started etc, losing them for a week or two, well, it's just a bit annoying, that's all.

I have resigned myself to the fact they will both be banned anything different will then be a massive bonus.

Exactly what i was thinking. Great minds and all that.

Good call that

Morley should get banned Carvell shouldnt