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Quote: Jordan Rankin "4th game, after Wigan, Saints and Trinity.....'"

No, after those 3, TWP becomes the 1st game.

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Quote: Wires71 "Developing your argument it is worth considering that we have not won a GF in 10 seasons of trying with realistic intentions (2010 onwards). Our other 3 main rival clubs have won multiple GFs in that time frame.

So, surely by deductive logic, either we don't really want it enough, or we desperately do want it but just don't have the capability to deliver it. Has to be one of those two doesn't it? Or have we just been serially unlucky?'"

This “if you want something enough you can get it” seems to be a modern myth amplified by reality tv. I really want to win Euro Millions, I mean really, really and yet still no win.
There are numerous reasons we haven’t won a GF some of them may have been down to bad decisions some bad luck...
The truth is sport is unpredictable

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Quote: Captain Hook "This “if you want something enough you can get it” seems to be a modern myth amplified by reality tv. I really want to win Euro Millions, I mean really, really and yet still no win.
There are numerous reasons we haven’t won a GF some of them may have been down to bad decisions some bad luck...
The truth is sport is unpredictable'"
no such thing as luck.
Not winning the lotto is down to probability odds against and wanting has no effect upon odds however many fingers you cross.
Not winning a GF is down to lesser ability where and when opportunity arose.

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Shouldn’t be considering Noble in any role. His success at Toronto, Salford and Crusaders is hardly stellar. Well past his sell-by date for any position.

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Noble was the director of rugby for a club who without recalling players from loan and signing A N Other to play as an amateur, wouldn’t have enough players to fill a team. You’d assume that he would have oversight of the squad, given the title. Pathetic really.

Don’t touch him, his times been and gone.

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Quote: Captain Hook "This “if you want something enough you can get it” seems to be a modern myth amplified by reality tv. I really want to win Euro Millions, I mean really, really and yet still no win.
There are numerous reasons we haven’t won a GF some of them may have been down to bad decisions some bad luck...
The truth is sport is unpredictable'"


Yet it has been fairly predictable (ie 100%) in that either Wigan, Saints or Leeds has been in the GF for 22

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Quote: rubber duckie "no such thing as luck.
Not winning the lotto is down to probability'"


LuckSuccess or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
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In short luck is, by its very definition, down to probability.

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Quote: rubber duckie "no such thing as luck.
Not winning the lotto is down to probability odds against and wanting has no effect upon odds however many fingers you cross.
Not winning a GF is down to lesser ability where and when opportunity arose.'"



No Captain Hooks lottery example was not a good example.

I think bad luck may have cost us 1 GF with the injury to Monaghan, but not 4 GFs.

Opportunity, capability, attitude.

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Quote: St Helens Wolf "LuckSuccess or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
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In short luck is, by its very definition, down to probability.'"

The national lottery isn't random.

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I’ve felt for a while that what we need is a right b&stard whose attitude is win or get out of my dressing room.

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I think my point about the lottery has been misunderstood, I was dealing with the issue of “if you want something enough you will get it” theory. Not the why haven’t we won the GF.
Reductio ad absurdum

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Quote: Robwire "I’ve felt for a while that what we need is a right b&stard whose attitude is win or get out of my dressing room.'"

I get the feeling those days are gone.
Murphy In RL
Ferguson in football.

These days, stats, player welfare (especially mentally), a huge emphasis on tactics. Things have gone in a different direction, now.

Granted, Wane is/was a very modern day version of the term "b&stard", but to those he's known for the last decade or so, he's ruled by fear, because people who know him, know him to be a "b&stard".Put him into a different dressing room (in modern times), he'll be hated/ignored/hounded out.
He's not lasted long in Scottish 3 point. Maybe he's upset the kilt wearers.

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He can go now before full time....
16-nil and now 22-22....

He can f... right off for me.

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Awful awful coach Cullen got a sit in for less. Should be sacked before Monday morning.

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ive seen enough.

If the people running this club are watching what we are watching, then there really is no excuse for continuing this farce.

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