Not so. The Bothered Brotherhood can't bring ourselves to moan, not really. We just sit around sighing, shaking our collective heads.

Then we watch Peep Show on DVD to cheer ourselves up.

First class idea! Maybe we could get Super Hands in the changing room to look after team diet and supplements.

I've already used the phrase 'sh*t munchers' this morning.

To whom do I apply for membership of the "Not as Bothered" Club?

I suspect this must be a little like Alcoholics Anonymous.
You feel that you're the only person in the world who feels the way you do, only to take comfort in the discovery that what you're experiencing is actually more commonplace than you dared hope.

The Saints collapse didn't hurt at all.
The Catalans debacle washed over me and I was fine a few minutes after the match.
As I've seen written by others on here, I have mixed feelings over whether I want the team to do well at Wakefield as that will only prolong the appalling decision to make Lowes the Head Coach.

I am grateful to Simon Moran and his involvement with the club.
I believe Andy Gatcliffe to be a more than able Chief Executive.
I even have no gripe with Doug Hoyle's role within the club.
But to have an unproven, inexperienced and ill-disciplined Head Coach was a huge and monumental mistake.

By the way, I'll still hold this viewpoint when we convincingly beat Leeds next week!

I share your view in bold. But, to go back to the irony theme, I belive this to be a tragic irony. In that we believe results will only pick up when results are not forthcoming!

For me Saints games in particular, but almost all games nowadays are like playing the lottery. I buy a ticket in the hope that I will win. I tell everyone what I will do when I do win. But when the numbers come out and I'm still poor I'm not at all surprised or upset about it, I just look forward to buying another ticket the following week!

JWP wrote: The thing is, as disappointed as I am right now, I'll be glued to the TV on Friday, taking every tackle, bobbing up & down on the coach screaming 'get 'em off em ref' & appluading sarcasticly every decision that he gives for offside because you can't escape the fact that there's something inside you, something desperate for this chumps to roll their sleeves up, just click and realise their potential.

Bobbing up and down on the coach?................wont Mrs JWP have something to say about that?

I'll never forget Richard Marshall telling me I was too vocal and enthusiastic when I was coaching a team at a RU event. Funnily enough said team went on to be Cheshire champions.

He must have been sitting next to Lowes too long.

Yes but being in yorkshire you are loyal these lot are like vultures. Lets face it most of them wouldnt have got as far as the penines had they not gone to watch matches

"Vultures"? "Trumped up Trumps"? However next will you refer to a Warrington supporter?

YAWK SHER
YAWK SHER
YAWK SHER!

I don't get it? does it mean that I should go to Yorkshire for something other than an away game? Confused!

It's that big chip on their shoulders about Lancashire. Ignore him.