I know what you mean Browny, but back then we were a part time sport in the winter.

I think the comparison to the NRL is a relatively fair one. We don't have access to anywhere near as large a pool of talent of course, but there's no reason why we can't hold ourselves and the referees up to the same standards as the NRL. I watched NRL finals footy this weekend, and the pace and intensity was off the charts compared to Super League. We used to have it that exciting until about 10 years ago. Admittedly the defence back wasn't as great, but defence doesn't attract fans, champagne rugby does. When was the last time we saw a Super League side reproduce something like Saints 2000-05, Leeds, 2007-2010 or Warrington 2010-2013?

In this part of the world, we're a sport with a dwindling audience consisting of mainly ageing men, with a smattering of families bound by community allegiances. I can't see where any new fans are coming from with this sort of garbage served up by the top 6 sides of the top competition.

Seriously??

Good shout. It's unfair to criticize Chambers when he probably doesn't want to be in that responsible role,and hasn't got the experience. It's wrong to make him culpable.

100% agree, but we need some attacking shape, just adding better centres / back rowers won’t fix it., the problem with Dufty is he struggles with that 3rd pivot option and is much more effective in the middle of the field. Problem with that is we lose that option out of the back. If we use Dufty we need old school half attaching shape with 13 first receiver, then Drinkwater with Williams as the option.

For the love of god get rid of Stefan. I can, at best, tolerate that man on the bench as a utility player (which is what he should’ve been for the past 5 seasons) but he’s a millstone in terms of what he offers and his in-game responses and attitude. Average player, dreadful leader.

Issue with Thewlis is he isn’t really a winger. He’s still learning the position. He often lacks the instinct. Seen him fail to react to breaks a few times this year.

Issue with Thewlis is he isn’t really a winger. He’s still learning the position. He often lacks the instinct. Seen him fail to react to breaks a few times this year.

Fair enough. Just telling it as I see it. I have gone from never missing a Super League game on TV to only watching ours plus the occasional other game. I found those two one-sided games fantastic to watch - two teams that are playing rugby out of this world.

I'm currently watching the Saints v Bradford GF from 2002 and the difference in speed or the ptb and even just movement in general play versus the game today is insane. I know its a different level of intensity but still, this was essentially a lesser play off game really in theory. The gulf in quality of spectacle is embarassing.

So easy to fix. Anyone on here could sort in 30 mins. Watching early SL highlights gets me so annoyed. It’s a disgrace it’s been allowed to come to this.

its SOOO easy to fix right?

just abolish the salary cap, massively strengthen the GBP against the aussie dollar, make RL attractive to youngsters in the UK, make sky double their money and finally..... bring back the shoulder charge.

more like 20 mins.

the thewlis knock on call, when he was trying to get up and play the ball, but couldn't because someone had been holding his legs for about 10 seconds, was nothing short of scandalous.

that should have been a penalty and ten minutes in the bin.... very different outcome in the game then.

we were still awful though.

Simply spend a month refereeing with an iron fist. Actually enforce the rules to the letter of the law. That would literally fix half of the sports entertainment issues.

my idea was better.

Diddums, my heart bleeds. After 10 years fans should know the parking options by now. As a Salford fan who regularly travels to away games I've worked out where to park to avoid post match travel chaos. I always park away from the ground and walk and I do the same at Salford. I assume you have 2 legs?

And yes Salford has a centre, it just happens to be miles from the ground so not sure what the relevance is to your whinge.