There’s one tiny flaw in your Everton argument and that is that Everton had got rid of their ‘Powell’.

I’ll be there against Toulouse and I’ll be cheering them on, as will 99.9% of the fans. I’ll be cheering them on if we go behind but if at the end we have lost to Toulouse and our SL status is in real jeopardy I’ll probably be lobbing eggs at the Warrington Fabrication box.

I know plenty of Everton fans and they would’ve been at Benitez’ throat right up the point of relegation had he still been there.

I don’t think fans expecting the most expensive squad in SL to NOT to get relegated is entitled!! I’ve been home and away for 40 years I just expect better than this coach, he’s rotten in every way and blind faith helps no-one.

So you really think fans don't make a difference? Another of many posts based on a one dimensional viewpoint. To quote the great Obi Wan Kenobe, 'only a sith deals in absolutes'.

I'm comparing fans, that's it. I'm not debating the Powell thing anymore.

Refer to my last comment. I didn't say Lampard didn't make any difference. But imo, the fans backing pushed them the extra mike and kept them up.

Btw, Lampard hasn't got a particularly strong coaching cv, or have I missed something.

Did you go to any of Everton’s games last season, in particular any of their last ten?

Yes. In the main, the performances were just as bad as under Benitez. The fans basically made a huge difference.

Under Benitez, those performances made the fans negative. In that final run-in, the fans actually supported them even when it was e.

The fans that were there yesterday were more bothered about singing “how sh*t must you be” when they were in front yesterday— bonkers. I mean if you were on the field and hearing that- who is that going to gee up? The wire players or the opposition?
At the end of the game most of the wire fans left either just before or at the final whistle. A few remained- including the guy with the drum.
They started a rendition of “what the f*cking hell was that” as the players started walking over to the fans, so the players just stopped and walked away again.
It’s no wonder you say they aren’t playing with any heart. Think you are part of the problem.
Compare that to wakey who are fighting tooth and nail to stay up.

You may not have been aware, but the games were covered on Sky and radio stations. And it was well reported that the Everton fans made Goodison into a bit of a fortress.

Are you saying that in order to form an opinion, one has to be present at a said event/events?

I take it you're probably unaware of the Ukraine war given that you're not there.

Where have I said this? Jumping to conclusions and calling somebody "one dimensional" does you no credit. There are many factors that may affect a sporting contest, but implying that it's all down to the supporters and ignoring the many other factors does not make any sense to me.

Sorry, read the wrong quote.

Scenario. Toulouse are 16-0 up, early in the second half Wire get two quick tries and it’s 16-12. Do you think the whole stadium will be roaring Wire on to complete the comeback just like those wondrous Everton fans v Crystal Palace?

Your love of Powell. Resorting to insults again and unaware of the irony of your ‘one dimensional’ claptrap.

Apologies. I thought a previous quote was from you.

Are you saying that the fans didn't make a difference? Was it down to purely Lampard in your opinion?

By dismissing the support of the fans and only crediting Lampard is one dimensional...isn't it?

Please, if you would, provide me with your definition if you find this inaccurate.