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Quote: Gazwire "Yes, let's keep things the same cos we wos doing fab.'"


It must be difficult to read with head in the sand, but let me be clear. Whatever he’s doing, it’s not working. The players that HE brought in, aren’t playing for him. This isn’t about the players who have been made a scapegoat of anymore. THREE players that haven’t been signed by Powell have played in the past 2 weeks.

The excuses have ran out. The ‘bad apples’ are gone. We’re 20 games in and are worse than where we were on week one.

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Quote: Gazwire "Get with it mate - this was referring to Tony Smith's season at Hull KR - you do realise he's been there most of this. season'"


Forgive me. i forget who mentioned it earlier in the thread.
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you do know tony smith had secured the same amount of points we have now.

Also including challenge cup. tony smiths hull kr side won 9 matches. losing 11. so a win % of 45% this season.
thats still 10 points higher than daryl powell this season.

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Quote: wire2004 "Forgive me. i forget who mentioned it earlier in the thread.
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you do know tony smith had secured the same amount of points we have now.

Also including challenge cup. tony smiths hull kr side won 9 matches. losing 11. so a win % of 45% this season.
that's still 10 points higher than Daryl Powell this season.'"


just as a comparison. the first 20 games after tony smith came in was 13 wins 65% win ratio with a Paul Cullen team.

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Quote: Gazwire "Yep, we were doing fab. The players have been great over 6/7 years and we just needed a great coach.'"


Mock all you like, but for all of their faults, we were doing much better under Smith and Price than we are now.

This is fast becoming our worst season in 20 years based on league standings. 20 years of building the club up on field, off field and financially is being disrespectfully thrown away in less than twelve months by an coach out of his depth, and a CEO who is woefully inept and blind to the danger the club is in. Both need to be shown the door on Monday. Ideally sooner.

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Quote: Barbed Wire "It must be difficult to read with head in the sand, but let me be clear. Whatever he’s doing, it’s not working. The players that HE brought in, aren’t playing for him. This isn’t about the players who have been made a scapegoat of anymore. THREE players that haven’t been signed by Powell have played in the past 2 weeks.

The excuses have ran out. The ‘bad apples’ are gone. We’re 20 games in and are worse than where we were on week one.'"


For the last time, I'm not defending him tonight, I'm defending a coach's right to have a fair crack.

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Quote: Gazwire "For the last time, I'm not defending him tonight, I'm defending a coach's right to have a fair crack.'"


Some of his selections suggest he has had a serious amount of crack.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Ferguson won the Scottish league and cup winners cup (with Aberdeen) showing a clearly superb pedigree. Powell has won a meaningless LLS and then bottled 3 finals'"

I've never understood that attitude to the LLS it is the hardest trophy to win and always won by the best team in the league.

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Quote: wire2004 "Forgive me. i forget who mentioned it earlier in the thread.
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you do know tony smith had secured the same amount of points we have now.

Also including challenge cup. tony smiths hull kr side won 9 matches. losing 11. so a win % of 45% this season.
thats still 10 points higher than daryl powell this season.'"


I get it you don't like Powell and I understand why you'd want him out. But I can't believe the ignorance on here with some comparing Powell's stats this season with other coaches whilst undergoing the largest player movement I think I've ever seen at any club. It actually lessons the argument for Powell out. Lack of progress though in key areas is fair game - I totally get it.

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Quote: Gazwire "I get it you don't like Powell and I understand why you'd want him out. But I can't believe the ignorance on here with some comparing Powell's stats this season with other coaches whilst undergoing the largest player movement I think I've ever seen at any club. It actually lessons the argument for Powell out. Lack of progress though in key areas is fair game - I totally get it.'"


GW, you cannot persist in posting that "DP has a proven track record of............" and not expect comparisons then to be made by others, as track record and stats are the same thing.

This is certainly the largest player movement of any club in the SL era, but you have to question was it really necessary, given where it currently leaves us.
There's only 1 stat/track record that matters now, were 4 points off the bottom. I doubt the board being willing to give DP time should we look to be heading even more towards the championship, no matter what his track record at other clubs was, as that becomes irrelevant.

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Quote: Gazwire "Answer me this
Not sure why you keep bringing up a football manager from donkeys years ago, the hairdryer treatment may have worked then, times have changed. Aston has a system, which he used at Salford, he simply needed players to work in the system. Powell,no idea what his system is, if he has one. Look back 12 months, his teams have hardly won a game, at Cas and now here. Losing is a habit, he does not know how to get a team to win consistently.
The club should let him go now, we couldn't do any worse could we?

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "GW, you cannot persist in posting that "DP has a proven track record of............" and not expect comparisons then to be made by others, as track record and stats are the same thing.

This is certainly the largest player movement of any club in the SL era, but you have to question was it really necessary, given where it currently leaves us.
There's only 1 stat/track record that matters now, were 4 points off the bottom. I doubt the board being willing to give DP time should we look to be heading even more towards the championship, no matter what his track record at other clubs was, as that becomes irrelevant.'"



It's some people comparing Powell's stats this season, during a total rebuild with other coaches coaching mainly settled squads with a low to medium turn over.

I certainly will persist and will highlight stupid comparisons.

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Quote: Gazwire "For the last time, I'm not defending him tonight, I'm defending a coach's right to have a fair crack.'"

He's had more than his fair crack, he's blown it. And the club.

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It's an emotional time and there is already a Powell Out thread so although it's probably too late to salvage the integrity of this thread can we please keep on topic.

Last night's performance was a disappointing cocktail of somnambulism and indiscipline from the team and coaching staff. I really thought that we'd be picking up the two points as we had a decent start but typical of recent Wire performances we didn't manage to kill the opposition off and Hull KR as every other team knows stay in the game we'll get chances and Warrington will crumble.

I'm not going to bag any individual performances, KR certainly had an effective high bomb kicking game, but to go from forcing a drop out to conceding a try in the blink of an eye is unforgivable. There was also a PTB in the second half on our 40 where we went down the blind side with a three on two, great unless he 5 players are in 10 yards of space on a pitch that would befit John Noakes taking a London Double Decker bus skid pan test. Mikey Lewis limping heavily with a bright white bandaged foot (the lad could hardly stand) might have expected a kick return and a good hiding, but oh no our KO went to the other corner so he could test his injury out for a bit then hobble off to the away speccies applause. Guess where the next kick off went.......

Poor poor poor, a litany of bad decision making on and off the pitch especially on the none selection of Wrench and Nicholson to the point where i'm seriously coming round to the view that something really is wrong in the state of Denmark .

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